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Old 05-10-2018, 09:11 AM
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Originally Posted by All Bizniz View Post
With 20 days OFF? 70 hours-ish.. But get this... On the other end of the spectrum...... I'll see your 80 hours and raise you 15.5 hrs (95.5 hrs) for your same 16 days off!! (that's my schedule for this month,May)

If you're doing it for the kids n sh!t, Pref Bid is the way to go!

That's the beauty of Pref Bid.. Whatever you desire, you can customize to your hearts content! On any given month I can bid for a stretch of days OFF that effectively is like.. you guessed it! VACATION!! I can do that 12 times a year!

Put a 8 or 10 days OFF stretch at the end of of one month together with another stretch of 8 or 10 days OFF at the beginning of the next month and you can get 16 to 20 Days OFF while still crediting high 80s in both months... I could do that 5 or 6 times a year.... And I still haven't even touched my real Vacation days....

Here's the take away.... Applied evenly to both, whether the Scheduling Rules are great or terrible, you will still have better overall flexibility and control of the schedule you will be awarded each month using Pref Bid as opposed to Line Bidding.
That may be the way it used to be but I want to know how it is now? Are you still getting the lines built the way you want them and everyone who’s complaining about QOL going down is just being dramatic or are you actually noticing a downward trend in pairing construction?
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Old 05-10-2018, 09:21 AM
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Originally Posted by Jetlife View Post
That's cute. How many DAL/AAL/UAL/UPS/FDX/SWA pilots left to go to AS? Stay in your lane.
Not to split hairs here but during the downturn, quite a few came from UAL, USA, TWA, AA, AWA etc. Some stayed, some went back. Probably the same scenario at VX. I even know a few guys that have turned down class dates at FDX and DAL to stay at AS. Not sure why but everyone has their own life goals.
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Old 05-10-2018, 09:46 AM
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Ups guy a class or two ago. A SWA CA came here 10-13 years ago? Off hand I can think of 20-30 AMR and UAL pilots over the past decade. All for different reasons I am sure.
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Old 05-10-2018, 10:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Ispeakjive View Post
That's 3 "y'alls" in one response. Nice work. My objection to you and your circle jerk eagle buddy is that the tone from most people has been:
1) Neither pilot group orchestrated the deal. Let's work together.
2) Neither pilot group undermined the other. Let's work together.
3) Management sucks. Let's work together.

See the theme? Now look back at the history of your posts. Your tone is divisive. It's not an occasional post from you. Divisiveness is the over-arching theme/intent behind all you write. So, yeah f*ck off.
Factual but not divisive. We’re all entitled to our opinions but your views seem skewed due to your emotions blinding facts. Complexes, I get it.
You seem like quite the angry Napoleon so I’ll knock it off with you. I suggest an anger management course or two.
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Old 05-10-2018, 10:24 AM
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Originally Posted by KnockKnock View Post
That may be the way it used to be but I want to know how it is now? Are you still getting the lines built the way you want them and everyone who’s complaining about QOL going down is just being dramatic or are you actually noticing a downward trend in pairing construction?
Yes, there is a bit of a downward trend in the quality of the trips in the sense that we're doing more multi-leg days up and down the west coast, but for the most part there is still a good mix of efficient commutable and non-commutable trips.

With that being said, going back to the flexibility point of Pref Bid, you can still mix and match even the "bad" pairings to get your Day's Off or Fly Thru cities or whatever other customization you wanna put in your bid...
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Old 05-10-2018, 10:43 AM
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Originally Posted by 2loud View Post
Factual but not divisive. We’re all entitled to our opinions but your views seem skewed due to your emotions blinding facts. Complexes, I get it.
You seem like quite the angry Napoleon so I’ll knock it off with you. I suggest an anger management course or two.

Fact? So, you are doubling down on your previous posts that all VXer's are undesirable...? Thats your fact? You paint the entire VX group as undesirable with racist like efficiency.

People providing for their families with diverse backgrounds somehow hurts you. I hope people here go back through the history of your posts and see your systematic smear campaign.

We are entitled to opinions. But you are a Piece of ******. Thats not an opinion, its a Universal Fact. Don't try to divide my airline.
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Old 05-10-2018, 10:53 AM
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I am sure most, probably 98% or more of the VX pilots are not only good pilots they are pretty cool people even though you all dog me. I just don’t think it is fair if even one comes across senior to me, just my opinion.
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Old 05-10-2018, 12:44 PM
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I am sure most, probably 98% or more of the VX pilots are not only good pilots they are pretty cool people even though you all dog me. I just don’t think it is fair if even one comes across senior to me, just my opinion.
Let’s say you’re #640...2/3 of the way down the CA list. You’re saying that it is fair that you’ll be able to bid SFO the day after the SLI comes out and be the #1 CA there? Got it.
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Old 05-10-2018, 12:46 PM
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Originally Posted by KnockKnock View Post
That may be the way it used to be but I want to know how it is now? Are you still getting the lines built the way you want them and everyone who’s complaining about QOL going down is just being dramatic or are you actually noticing a downward trend in pairing construction?
I have a few more legs, but still have 79+ credit with 19 days off bidding a little worse than 75%. Not all commutable though. I know the horse is dead. It would be nice to work together to achieve some scheduling improvement. Hopefully this scheduling mou they are working on does that. I have only had one less than great interaction with a Boeing guy so far. I believe the jerks are very few and far between on both sides.
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Old 05-10-2018, 01:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Max Thrust View Post
Let’s say you’re #640...2/3 of the way down the CA list. You’re saying that it is fair that you’ll be able to bid SFO the day after the SLI comes out and be the #1 CA there? Got it.
Yes, but I know I will never bid Sfo, Jfk, or Lax. My seniority will not affect a single Virgin pilot. I am confident less then 10 Alaska pilots will go to Sfo. No matter the outcome of this SLI very few Virgin pilots base position will be affected at all. With both proposals almost every Alaska pilot will feel significant pain.
I have nothing to win, you have nothing to lose.
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