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Old 06-10-2021, 05:05 PM
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What a completely Alaska thing to do, and by this I mean deceitful, backhanded, disgusting, and utterly inappropriate thing to do. In no way am I surprised to read this as Alaska management is very anti pilot and has never given a rats behind about the pilot group in general.
Meh. Unlike some other airlines they honored class dates for poolies who were already past V1 with resignation from their old jobs... that sticks out in my mind because other majors did not.

Not sure why they canx CJO's, maybe a lawyer thing.
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Old 06-10-2021, 05:33 PM
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Could be.. but the right thing to do would be to have them re-interview in the very first group on interviewees upon resumption of hiring
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Meh. Unlike some other airlines they honored class dates for poolies who were already past V1 with resignation from their old jobs... that sticks out in my mind because other majors did not.

Not sure why they canx CJO's, maybe a lawyer thing.
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Old 06-11-2021, 06:18 AM
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Originally Posted by rickair7777 View Post
Meh. Unlike some other airlines they honored class dates for poolies who were already past V1 with resignation from their old jobs... that sticks out in my mind because other majors did not.

Not sure why they canx CJO's, maybe a lawyer thing.
Yeah talk about getting screwed... The 3 March class at United. The ones that could not get their old jobs back were given positions at Express Jet... not sure what happened to them after that.
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Old 06-11-2021, 07:17 AM
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Why would you give a job back to someone who was dead set on leaving?
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Old 06-11-2021, 07:42 AM
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They were all offered slots in the first class when hiring resumed back in May if they still wanted the job.. classy move by united. Cant say the same for our garbage leadership
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Yeah talk about getting screwed... The 3 March class at United. The ones that could not get their old jobs back were given positions at Express Jet... not sure what happened to them after that.
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Why would you give a job back to someone who was dead set on leaving?
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Why would you give a job back to someone who was dead set on leaving?
Because, they left on good terms and we’re a good employee. Because, you could hire them back as a contractor and they’re already current and qualified. Because that might give you extra time to find someone. Because though you were sad to see them go, you were happy to see them accomplish their goals, and you’d like to help em out.

or conversely, maybe none of that.
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Old 06-11-2021, 04:35 PM
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Because, they left on good terms and we’re a good employee. Because, you could hire them back as a contractor and they’re already current and qualified. Because that might give you extra time to find someone. Because though you were sad to see them go, you were happy to see them accomplish their goals, and you’d like to help em out.

or conversely, maybe none of that.
They resigned. You're not hiring, and in fact you're probably about to furlough 20%. Why would you bring back someone who quit? And then pay them to not work for a while, and then furlough them? Or furlough someone junior to them who actually WANTED to work there?

You could do it to be nice, but there's not much business case for it.

IMO unions should negotiate snap-back provisions if that's of value to the pilot group. It's of value at regionals, because it allows an established regional CA to try for the majors without rolling the dice on his family's financial future, and thereby encourages upward mobility in the ranks. It's not of much value to most major pilot groups.
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Originally Posted by rickair7777 View Post
They resigned. You're not hiring, and in fact you're probably about to furlough 20%. Why would you bring back someone who quit? And then pay them to not work for a while, and then furlough them? Or furlough someone junior to them who actually WANTED to work there?

You could do it to be nice, but there's not much business case for it.

IMO unions should negotiate snap-back provisions if that's of value to the pilot group. It's of value at regionals, because it allows an established regional CA to try for the majors without rolling the dice on his family's financial future, and thereby encourages upward mobility in the ranks. It's not of much value to most major pilot groups.
i realize that wouldn’t work at the regionals. Not everyone that goes to a major quits a regional to go there. Part 91 corporate department, part 135….
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Old 06-11-2021, 06:54 PM
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i realize that wouldn’t work at the regionals. Not everyone that goes to a major quits a regional to go there. Part 91 corporate department, part 135….
I was saying it's useful at the regionals and some of them have it, or had it in the past. You can resign to take another job, and come back within six months with seniority intact, something like that. Otherwise new-hire training is a dangerous gamble for a 40 y/o with three kids and maybe a stay-at-home spouse.
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