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Old 06-12-2021, 06:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Ala5ka
Lol so what youíre saying is now 2 years into negotiations literally no headway has been made whatsoever.. that all this rv roadshow cookouts, unity talks, management is gonna pay this time talk etc talk has been fruitless? Shocking. This management group will not bend ever, nor do they have any reason to. For 84 years now Alaska pilots have buckled to management and they except nothing different. Alaskaís current contract will be in place for a long long time and any new agreement will provide minimal gains at the very best.

If youíre still on our list and can leave, blast those apps out. If youíre thinking of coming here, run fast the other direction. Your job as a regional captain is better in every way except hourly pay rate. Run run run.

also, this negotiation update was posted on our internal message board over a day ago. Since then only one response has been posted in disbelief about the ridiculous stance of management... that alone speaks volumes about the level of outrage and action our pilot group is willing to take. We get what we fight for, which yet again will be industry basement by a mile
There are plenty of people in disbelief not posting on the message boards. Especially in regards to the company email from the big boss saying scope hasnít hurt any mainline Alaska Pilot. If SFO closes its directly related to that issue.
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Old 06-12-2021, 08:00 PM
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I went to the Union meet and greet thingy and spoke with some of the negotiating people. It didnít sound *that* bad. The Union is at least trying for me. Itís more than anyone has done for my career other than myself...


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Old 06-12-2021, 08:42 PM
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My post came off without praise to the Union.. I agree with you, they are trying very hard and I value their effort immensely. They are working so hard. Itís this company whom I hold disdain for the way they negotiate and donít live the values that they force upon us.
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I went to the Union meet and greet thingy and spoke with some of the negotiating people. It didnít sound *that* bad. The Union is at least trying for me. Itís more than anyone has done for my career other than myself...


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Old 06-12-2021, 08:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Ala5ka
My post came off without praise to the Union.. I agree with you, they are trying very hard and I value their effort immensely. They are working so hard. Itís this company whom I hold disdain for the way they negotiate and donít live the values that they force upon us.

I feel for those Union people. Thanks for clarifying. We have out of touch management that do not have our backs. We really only have each other at this point.


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Old 06-12-2021, 09:15 PM
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Agreed entirely
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I feel for those Union people. Thanks for clarifying. We have out of touch management that do not have our backs. We really only have each other at this point.


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Old 06-12-2021, 10:24 PM
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Originally Posted by NewGuy01
I feel for those Union people. Thanks for clarifying. We have out of touch management that do not have our backs. We really only have each other at this point.


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yep. Management will always fight for the bottom line. Unity in your ranks is a powerful thing though. If you can achieve the unity and resolve among the group, it can be done. Having strong leadership in the union is a necessary start, but it will also take the support of the rank and file having their backs. Good luck.

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Old 06-15-2021, 05:58 PM
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3248892[/url]]If airlines are going to play the ďwe wonít take you backĒ game, then I would only resign one day before class. Why even quit with two weeks notice? Not like the ďcourtesyĒ matters to most scumbag regionals.
You usually have unused and accrued vacation, etc at stake. To not give notice adds up to thousands.
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Old 06-18-2021, 10:27 AM
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yep. Management will always fight for the bottom line.
Everybody understands that's their job, right?
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Old 06-19-2021, 05:28 AM
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Everybody understands that's their job, right?
Under their purported claim of being commited to Corporate Social Responsibility (CSR), that is not their only job/responsibility.

Alaska Airlines touts themselves as a card carrying Corporate Social Responsibility (CSR) machine. CSR requires a company to take all their stakeholders into consideration, looking at fair employee compensation, etc and not just profitably at all cost.

In fact a commitment to CSR means that a company's measure of their success means not just looking at the Bottom line, but rather the Triple Bottom Line (TBL) as a measure of a company's true success. The three areas are Profitability, The Environment, and Social, of which employee well being, compensation is an important indicator.
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Originally Posted by All Bizniz
Under their purported claim of being commited to Corporate Social Responsibility (CSR), that is not their only job/responsibility.

Alaska Airlines touts themselves as a card carrying Corporate Social Responsibility (CSR) machine. CSR requires a company to take all their stakeholders into consideration, looking at fair employee compensation, etc and not just profitably at all cost.

In fact a commitment to CSR means that a company's measure of their success means not just looking at the Bottom line, but rather the Triple Bottom Line (TBL) as a measure of a company's true success. The three areas are Profitability, The Environment, and Social, of which employee well being, compensation is an important indicator.
Hahahaha, I needed a good laughÖ this is one entertaining board, good one😆
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