Originally Posted by Ala5ka

Lol so what you’re saying is now 2 years into negotiations literally no headway has been made whatsoever.. that all this rv roadshow cookouts, unity talks, management is gonna pay this time talk etc talk has been fruitless? Shocking. This management group will not bend ever, nor do they have any reason to. For 84 years now Alaska pilots have buckled to management and they except nothing different. Alaska’s current contract will be in place for a long long time and any new agreement will provide minimal gains at the very best.

If you’re still on our list and can leave, blast those apps out. If you’re thinking of coming here, run fast the other direction. Your job as a regional captain is better in every way except hourly pay rate. Run run run.

also, this negotiation update was posted on our internal message board over a day ago. Since then only one response has been posted in disbelief about the ridiculous stance of management... that alone speaks volumes about the level of outrage and action our pilot group is willing to take. We get what we fight for, which yet again will be industry basement by a mile

Originally Posted by NewGuy01

I went to the Union meet and greet thingy and spoke with some of the negotiating people. It didn’t sound *that* bad. The Union is at least trying for me. It’s more than anyone has done for my career other than myself...


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Originally Posted by Ala5ka

My post came off without praise to the Union.. I agree with you, they are trying very hard and I value their effort immensely. They are working so hard. It’s this company whom I hold disdain for the way they negotiate and don’t live the values that they force upon us.

Originally Posted by NewGuy01

I feel for those Union people. Thanks for clarifying. We have out of touch management that do not have our backs. We really only have each other at this point.


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Originally Posted by NewGuy01

I feel for those Union people. Thanks for clarifying. We have out of touch management that do not have our backs. We really only have each other at this point.


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Originally Posted by PilotBases;[url=tel:3248892

3248892[/url]]If airlines are going to play the “we won’t take you back” game, then I would only resign one day before class. Why even quit with two weeks notice? Not like the “courtesy” matters to most scumbag regionals.

Originally Posted by Skyward

yep. Management will always fight for the bottom line.

Originally Posted by Reactivity

Everybody understands that's their job, right?

Originally Posted by All Bizniz

Under their purported claim of being commited to Corporate Social Responsibility (CSR), that is not their only job/responsibility.

Alaska Airlines touts themselves as a card carrying Corporate Social Responsibility (CSR) machine. CSR requires a company to take all their stakeholders into consideration, looking at fair employee compensation, etc and not just profitably at all cost.

In fact a commitment to CSR means that a company's measure of their success means not just looking at the Bottom line, but rather the Triple Bottom Line (TBL) as a measure of a company's true success. The three areas are Profitability, The Environment, and Social, of which employee well being, compensation is an important indicator.