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Old 08-02-2019, 07:23 PM
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Originally Posted by tangowhsky View Post
Wanted to ask before I did this...but does one need to "withdraw" the app to update it? TIA
Huh? You can neither withdraw your application nor can you update it. Once it's submitted, that's it until the next time they purge the system and have everybody apply again.
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Old 08-02-2019, 09:24 PM
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Still confused about the three different application periods.

Has anyone who applied in the first application period of 7/1 to 7/8 been invited yet for an interview (not counting the poster from a few pages ago who claimed to have gotten one while working on their app)

Or is AS actually waiting until all three application periods are complete before they send out interview invites to candidates from all three app periods?
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Old 08-02-2019, 09:26 PM
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Huh? You can neither withdraw your application nor can you update it. Once it's submitted, that's it until the next time they purge the system and have everybody apply again.
I have an option to withdraw, but not sure how to update.
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Old 08-02-2019, 10:04 PM
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Originally Posted by tangowhsky View Post
I have an option to withdraw, but not sure how to update.
Hmmm...okay. I've never seen the option to withdraw. But with Alaska, there is no update. That I know hasn't changed. You apply, and a year later, give or take, they flush the system and you can apply again.
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Old 08-02-2019, 10:18 PM
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Originally Posted by morerightrudder View Post
Still confused about the three different application periods.
I don't know why. The announcement was pretty clear. It said there would be three periods in which they will be taking applications. If you want to apply right away, fine. If you're a little short on time and will be in a better position to apply a few months later, then wait.

Has anyone who applied in the first application period of 7/1 to 7/8 been invited yet for an interview (not counting the poster from a few pages ago who claimed to have gotten one while working on their app) Or is AS actually waiting until all three application periods are complete before they send out interview invites to candidates from all three app periods?
Why would that matter? Apply whenever you're ready.

A guy I know who interviewed in mid-July applied a long time ago. I have been applying for years. I got a call last year with a promise to call again, but that call never came. They call whom they call when the mood strikes them. Even current Alaska pilots will tell you they have no idea how the system works.

And I was the guy referenced in the parenthetical portion of your question. That was stated entirely in jest because, like clockwork, there will always be somebody asking here within a week of a hiring window if anybody has been called from the most recent hiring window.
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Old 08-03-2019, 08:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Reactivity View Post
I don't know why. The announcement was pretty clear. It said there would be three periods in which they will be taking applications. If you want to apply right away, fine. If you're a little short on time and will be in a better position to apply a few months later, then wait.



Why would that matter? Apply whenever you're ready.

A guy I know who interviewed in mid-July applied a long time ago. I have been applying for years. I got a call last year with a promise to call again, but that call never came. They call whom they call when the mood strikes them. Even current Alaska pilots will tell you they have no idea how the system works.

And I was the guy referenced in the parenthetical portion of your question. That was stated entirely in jest because, like clockwork, there will always be somebody asking here within a week of a hiring window if anybody has been called from the most recent hiring window.
It sounds like you’ve been trying for a while to get the nod. Just curious, have you gone to any recent events? NW aviation conference, OBAP etc.. Do you have anyone helping you from the inside? Have you had anyone walk you in for a chief meet n greet? Of course non of us know the secret to getting a call but it seems like the non QX hires are getting calls from these events. We’ve got a decent size bid that just came out so there’s still a good amount of hiring to go for the year and they’re building a pool for next year. I’m glad to see things starting to move again. Good luck out there.
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Old 08-03-2019, 08:23 AM
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I’ve got a buddy who is a regional 121 PIC. He’s been to every meet and greet opportunity OBAP, PNW conf etc etc I also helped get him a meet and greet with the base CP. No call in a year +

I’m definitely in the “I have no idea how this works” camp.


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Old 08-03-2019, 08:37 AM
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Originally Posted by NewGuy01 View Post
I’ve got a buddy who is a regional 121 PIC. He’s been to every meet and greet opportunity OBAP, PNW conf etc etc I also helped get him a meet and greet with the base CP. No call in a year +

I’m definitely in the “I have no idea how this works” camp.


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I got the same scenario with a buddy of mine. Since last summer I’ve walked him into a meet n greet, NWAC and he’s at OBAP this weekend. He always comes out of there with positive feelings but then the call hasn’t come yet. AS is weird like that. They WANT to see you at these events but then string many along. However, you’re much less likely to get a call if you don’t attend these events.
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Old 08-03-2019, 10:59 AM
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Originally Posted by KnockKnock View Post
Just curious, have you gone to any recent events? NW aviation conference, OBAP etc.. Do you have anyone helping you from the inside? Have you had anyone walk you in for a chief meet n greet?
Been there, done all of that. Even had an internal recommendation from someone who was once featured in the "Why I love Alaska" section of the web site years ago.

In 2002, a single meeting with the Seattle base assistant chief pilot was enough to get me an interview. Not now.

I did all of that stuff for a while (starting in 2012), then stopped throwing money and time at them after a few years of absolutely no return on the investment. When I got the call for the meet & greet last year, I hadn't been to a single event in almost two full years. Figure that one out.

Honestly, though, the whole "job fair circuit" bugs me. Airlines expect you to drop a couple hundred dollars a couple of times a year to chase them around the country and stand in line for hours at the annual meeting of an organization in which you have no interest whatsoever so that you can get your face in front of them for ten minutes? Especially if you're working in part 135 like I was for a long time and you have no jumpseat capability, it's just nuts.

NWAC was easy because it's local to me and inexpensive, so I did that regularly for a while. A couple of times at NWAC, the first person I talked to took me to talk to a second recruiter. I figured I must be getting close, but still nothing. As noted, it wasn't until two years after I stopped doing anything beyond the annual-ish application that I finally got any attention at all from Alaska. That's why I say they call whom they call when the mood strikes them.
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Old 08-03-2019, 11:08 AM
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Originally Posted by NewGuy01 View Post
I’ve got a buddy who is a regional 121 PIC. He’s been to every meet and greet opportunity OBAP, PNW conf etc etc I also helped get him a meet and greet with the base CP. No call in a year +

I’m definitely in the “I have no idea how this works” camp.
My favorite such story comes from an Alaska crew I jumpseated with a while back, and their exact words to me were, "We have no idea how it works."

The FO had been doing all that stuff, plus he knew a check airman who was regularly lobbying the chief pilot on his behalf. It took five years before he finally got an interview. This is why I always laugh when somebody asks if anybody has been called within a week of any hiring window, because it just doesn't happen that quickly.
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