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Old 08-03-2019, 11:14 AM
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Originally Posted by NewGuy01 View Post
I’ve got a buddy who is a regional 121 PIC. He’s been to every meet and greet opportunity OBAP, PNW conf etc etc I also helped get him a meet and greet with the base CP. No call in a year +

I’m definitely in the “I have no idea how this works” camp.
That's always been the case. Back in the regional world nobody had the slightest idea how to get an interview, to the point that many folks didn't even bother applying. But you definitely can't win if you don't play...
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Old 08-03-2019, 11:20 AM
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I always get a little salty over the "has anyone been called who applied six weeks ago" type questions. I suppose it's jealousy, I was like a groupie for a decade (a wide selection of their job fair type things, volunteering, trying to get a check airman position, everything I could) before I got the call to interview. Good luck to all I hope it doesn't take any of you ten years of applications.

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Old 08-03-2019, 11:26 AM
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Been there, done all of that. Even had an internal recommendation from someone who was once featured in the "Why I love Alaska" section of the web site years ago.

In 2002, a single meeting with the Seattle base assistant chief pilot was enough to get me an interview. Not now.

I did all of that stuff for a while (starting in 2012), then stopped throwing money and time at them after a few years of absolutely no return on the investment. When I got the call for the meet & greet last year, I hadn't been to a single event in almost two full years. Figure that one out.

Honestly, though, the whole "job fair circuit" bugs me. Airlines expect you to drop a couple hundred dollars a couple of times a year to chase them around the country and stand in line for hours at the annual meeting of an organization in which you have no interest whatsoever so that you can get your face in front of them for ten minutes? Especially if you're working in part 135 like I was for a long time and you have no jumpseat capability, it's just nuts.

NWAC was easy because it's local to me and inexpensive, so I did that regularly for a while. A couple of times at NWAC, the first person I talked to took me to talk to a second recruiter. I figured I must be getting close, but still nothing. As noted, it wasn't until two years after I stopped doing anything beyond the annual-ish application that I finally got any attention at all from Alaska. That's why I say they call whom they call when the mood strikes them.
I agree, it’s a pain in the a$$. I thought that with all the need for pilots coming up, the job fair scheme would be fading away but it seems to be alive and well. Only other thing you can maybe do is volunteer at AS events like Aviation day in either SEA or PDX. It’s a free way to get face time and meet folks that can maybe advance your resume.
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Old 08-03-2019, 11:30 AM
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Originally Posted by coolyokeluke View Post
I always get a little salty over the "has anyone been called who applied six weeks ago" type questions. I suppose it's jealousy, I was like a groupie for a decade (a wide selection of their job fair type things, volunteering, trying to get a check airman position, everything I could) before I got the call to interview. Good luck to all I hope it doesn't take any of you ten years of applications.

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I think most of us have also been trying for years. It’s not like we applied 6 weeks ago for the first time and are wondering where the call is. But after doing jobs fairs, meet and greets, etc. for years, once the app opens you get hopeful.
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Old 08-03-2019, 11:34 AM
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I think most of us have also been trying for years. It’s not like we applied 6 weeks ago for the first time and are wondering where the call is. But after doing jobs fairs, meet and greets, etc. for years, once the app opens you get hopeful.
Like someone mentioned a good amount of hiring to come so reasons for optimism.

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Old 08-03-2019, 12:28 PM
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And I was the guy referenced in the parenthetical portion of your question. That was stated entirely in jest because, like clockwork, there will always be somebody asking here within a week of a hiring window if anybody has been called from the most recent hiring window.
Ok, thanks for clarifying. No offense meant. Been trying for awhile as well, and just trying to make some sense of it. In the end, it's basically a lottery, and was just trying to get some sense on how the draw works.
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Old 08-03-2019, 02:38 PM
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Originally Posted by morerightrudder View Post
Been trying for awhile as well, and just trying to make some sense of it. In the end, it's basically a lottery, and was just trying to get some sense on how the draw works.
I think you have a handle on it. "Lottery" is a great description. There are lots of opinions about how the draw works, but there are plenty of counterexamples where "random" or "when the mood strikes" seems more accurate.
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Old 08-03-2019, 03:41 PM
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I think you have a handle on it. "Lottery" is a great description. There are lots of opinions about how the draw works, but there are plenty of counterexamples where "random" or "when the mood strikes" seems more accurate.
I can attest to this, having applied at every window for the past 6 years. Attended WAI this time around and got the interview call last month. There is no method to the madness...
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Old 08-03-2019, 04:51 PM
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I can attest to this, having applied at every window for the past 6 years. Attended WAI this time around and got the interview call last month. There is no method to the madness...
Just curious, does AS call or email the invite for interview?
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Just curious, does AS call or email the invite for interview?
Phone call, in my case at least.
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