All additions are processed first. Then if there are reductions those get processed. Then pilots being reduced have bumping rights and then pilots being bumped have bumping rights all the way to the bottom of the seniority list…Bidding for a base or a position does not come with bumping rights

So to get into a base that doesn't have any additions you need to be bumped out of another base?

To get into a base there needs to be an open spot for you, unless you got pushed out of your spot, then you can push someone junior out of their spot.

Until the airbuses are gone everyone near the bottom of the list for that seat is vulnerable to getting displaced by someone senior coming off the bus, or someone displaced by someone coming off the bus, or someone displaced by that person, etc, until they reach your seniority level

Vacancies are done first. If you couldn't hold a certain base/seat during a vacancy process, no one junior to you is holding it either.


Next, reductions are processed. These are people who are getting forced out of their base/seat. In this example, you're most likely talking about a junior LAX Airbus Capt. If he's getting displaced, he can bid into ANY position at ANY base at this company, so as long as his seniority can hold it (regardless of a spot open or not). Say he bids ANC CA. It would then force the bottom ANC CA guy out and this bottom ANC CA then gets to exercise his displacement rights. Rinse/repeat.

That’s precisely my point. This process CAN (and is required) to lead to an impasse, cooling, and strike. So why would they have filed first? If the goal is drag out as long as possible, why not let the direct negotiations continue until ALPA gets fed up and files for mediation? They could have dragged this out for even more time. I don’t recall the union saying they were going to file for NMB negotiations. In fact, it sounded like they were caught off guard and surprised the company filed.

He guys answered perfectly. There's also another Alaska only forum where questions like this are answered all the time. It's a great resource. Ask around.

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Yes. At any US airline I know of, you cannot arbitrarily bump a junior person out of seat/equipment/base any time you want just because you're senior. Not fair to someone who moves to base, buys a house, establishes wife and kids in job/schools, etc.

If you get bumped, either by company reductions or a senior pilot, then you can bump anyone anywhere if they're junior to you.

If you really want something, better grab it at the first available opening... otherwise there may not be another opening for a while, possibly a long while.

I miss my regional where there were monthly position bids and they wouldn't put new hires in senior bases. Why don't majors have that? Just because they're bigger isn't a good reason, it makes them a lot less flexible having only two bids a year. Yes I'm going to look for that other forum

Yes, many shops have a carve out for new hire assignments, so yes a junior pilot could hold a position that you didn't get to bid for in that case. Yes I liked the way OO did it monthly.

Throw in an app at great Texas 73 operator. You’ll have the base you want in no time, and the flexibility in schedules like you wouldn’t believe. The best part is they even have Dr. Pepper on board, no boxed water bull crap.