Alaska Air Hiring
06-14-2022 | 04:49 PM
#6411
Gets Weekends Off
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Right. So how did Non-Union VX advance the profession? Easy to go full Norma Rae now. What about when it actually Mattered? Like it or not. Alaska Management used VX as a hammer and direct comparison to us during our past contract talks. Why wouldn’t they? A narrow body only Airline with one identical hub and another sandwiched between all the rest of ours?
Of course they used you AGAINST us. It’s Only now that you’re the one living (once again, despite the gains of the rest of the industry), the consequences and repercussions of the long shadow cast by a grossly under paid, non-union VX pilot group, do you become Joe Hill.
Nice try. Look in the Mirror and own the damage VX did to us. VX pilots never did themselves, or any other group, any favors. Welcome to the contract you helped shape Joe.
Of course they used you AGAINST us. It’s Only now that you’re the one living (once again, despite the gains of the rest of the industry), the consequences and repercussions of the long shadow cast by a grossly under paid, non-union VX pilot group, do you become Joe Hill.
Nice try. Look in the Mirror and own the damage VX did to us. VX pilots never did themselves, or any other group, any favors. Welcome to the contract you helped shape Joe.
06-14-2022 | 04:56 PM
#6413
New Hire
Joined: Aug 2008
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Right. So how did Non-Union VX advance the profession? Easy to go full Norma Rae now. What about when it actually Mattered? Like it or not. Alaska Management used VX as a hammer and direct comparison to us during our past contract talks. Why wouldn’t they? A narrow body only Airline with one identical hub and another sandwiched between all the rest of ours?
Of course they used you AGAINST us. It’s Only now that you’re the one living (once again, despite the gains of the rest of the industry), the consequences and repercussions of the long shadow cast by a grossly under paid, non-union VX pilot group, do you become Joe Hill.
Nice try. Look in the Mirror and own the damage VX did to us. VX pilots never did themselves, or any other group, any favors. Welcome to the contract you helped shape Joe.
Of course they used you AGAINST us. It’s Only now that you’re the one living (once again, despite the gains of the rest of the industry), the consequences and repercussions of the long shadow cast by a grossly under paid, non-union VX pilot group, do you become Joe Hill.
Nice try. Look in the Mirror and own the damage VX did to us. VX pilots never did themselves, or any other group, any favors. Welcome to the contract you helped shape Joe.
06-14-2022 | 06:32 PM
#6414
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Joined: Jan 2008
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Right. So how did Non-Union VX advance the profession? Easy to go full Norma Rae now. What about when it actually Mattered? Like it or not. Alaska Management used VX as a hammer and direct comparison to us during our past contract talks. Why wouldn’t they? A narrow body only Airline with one identical hub and another sandwiched between all the rest of ours?
Of course they used you AGAINST us. It’s Only now that you’re the one living (once again, despite the gains of the rest of the industry), the consequences and repercussions of the long shadow cast by a grossly under paid, non-union VX pilot group, do you become Joe Hill.
Nice try. Look in the Mirror and own the damage VX did to us. VX pilots never did themselves, or any other group, any favors. Welcome to the contract you helped shape Joe.
Of course they used you AGAINST us. It’s Only now that you’re the one living (once again, despite the gains of the rest of the industry), the consequences and repercussions of the long shadow cast by a grossly under paid, non-union VX pilot group, do you become Joe Hill.
Nice try. Look in the Mirror and own the damage VX did to us. VX pilots never did themselves, or any other group, any favors. Welcome to the contract you helped shape Joe.
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06-14-2022 | 09:15 PM
#6415
Mmmm wine
Joined: Feb 2020
Posts: 1,786
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From: The Jet
Right. So how did Non-Union VX advance the profession? Easy to go full Norma Rae now. What about when it actually Mattered? Like it or not. Alaska Management used VX as a hammer and direct comparison to us during our past contract talks. Why wouldn’t they? A narrow body only Airline with one identical hub and another sandwiched between all the rest of ours?
Of course they used you AGAINST us. It’s Only now that you’re the one living (once again, despite the gains of the rest of the industry), the consequences and repercussions of the long shadow cast by a grossly under paid, non-union VX pilot group, do you become Joe Hill.
Nice try. Look in the Mirror and own the damage VX did to us. VX pilots never did themselves, or any other group, any favors. Welcome to the contract you helped shape Joe.
Of course they used you AGAINST us. It’s Only now that you’re the one living (once again, despite the gains of the rest of the industry), the consequences and repercussions of the long shadow cast by a grossly under paid, non-union VX pilot group, do you become Joe Hill.
Nice try. Look in the Mirror and own the damage VX did to us. VX pilots never did themselves, or any other group, any favors. Welcome to the contract you helped shape Joe.
The legacy AS pilot group sat on their thumbs for decades and they have exactly THAT to show for it. Worst contract in the industry hands down. It is pathetic, it is a joke but it is the harsh reality. The legacy AS pilot group did nothing to fight for industry standard ANYTHING which is why you have no industry standard language. You didn't fight for scope, you didn't for work rules, you have the most archaic scheduling system in the industry along with the worst reserve rules in the industry. You have YOU and the pilots like you who did exactly nothing.
The most action this pilot group has seen is absolutely because of the VX pilot group. They didn't stand for the status quo BS that you guys have slopped up your entire careers. Look no further than the uniform disaster that JL tried to push on the pilot group. Had VX pilots not been on property, you would be wearing a Luly Yang uniform saying thank you sir may I have another. The biggest informational picket in ALPA history didn't happen without the VX pilot group uniting and energizing the legacy AS pilot group and if you think otherwise you are simply silly. How many times did the legacy ALPA MEC put a strike vote out? I will answer that. ZERO. You can literally pinpoint the course change in this pilot group. The tone, the unity, the energy, the moral. It was a tidal shift and it happened when VX came on property. I get it, you have to live with the fact that you spent a career with your head in the sand and now you are watching real change and it sucks that you don't get to take credit for that. But that is what you get for your efforts, no credit.
06-14-2022 | 09:50 PM
#6416
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06-14-2022 | 10:28 PM
#6418
Gets Weekends Off
Joined: Dec 2014
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From: Captain B-737
06-15-2022 | 05:30 AM
#6419
Mmmm wine
Joined: Feb 2020
Posts: 1,786
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From: The Jet
Yep. The new combined pilot group is fully on board, united and and deserving of the things they are fighting for. It is quite funny to watch dinosaurs like Joe post with complete lunacy and irrelevance to what is actually going on though lol...
06-15-2022 | 07:08 AM
#6420
On Reserve
Joined: Oct 2016
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You do realize that VX was made up by many union pilots from the plethora of airlines that went bye bye in the late 2000's or earlier. ATA, Comair, DHL, Aloha, Midwest,TWA, America West. Some USAir as well. And, that we had voted in ALPA by the time we became Eskimos. Many VX pilot walking around with 20 and 25 year ALPA pins that have done numerous volunteer work over the years to help this industry. So, out on the street in the last recession, you come to an airline and fight to make it better. So, maybe know what the makeup of the pilot group was before posting that garbage. Alaska got to where they are long before we were a blip on their radar.
I guess since VX pilots were all labeled as “undesirables” by some on this forum presumably without looking at our resumes or PRIAs, I’m wondering if Eskimo Joe can satisfy
our curiosity and rank our previous airlines in degrees of undesirability. Here’s a preliminary list:
ATA, Comair, DHL, Aloha, Mesa, United, Midwest,TWA, Delta Air Lines, America West, USAir, Envoy, SkyWest.
It must be great to have that much insight into the worth of your VX brethren. I’m sure we’ll find your rankings very enlightening. Go ahead…
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