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Old 01-17-2017, 12:49 PM
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Originally Posted by 757Driver View Post
Heard the new Negotiating Committee is staffed solely with Alaska Legend recipients. Seems to have worked well for you last time around.
Not true. There are 3 VX people on that committee as well. Also our MEC must sign off on any TA before it can go out to either group. I'm confident in our guys to do the right thing.
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Old 01-17-2017, 01:07 PM
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Not true. There are 3 VX people on that committee as well. Also our MEC must sign off on any TA before it can go out to either group. I'm confident in our guys to do the right thing.
Was just a joke NT. Alaska's last disasterous contract was spearheaded by a Union guy who shortly after its implementation was awarded "Legend" status by management. Akin to being awarded Employee of the year and completely inappropriate.

Guys gone now and is a very nice dude but shouldn't have been allowed within 50' of the negotiating table.
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Originally Posted by 757Driver View Post
Was just a joke NT. Alaska's last disasterous contract was spearheaded by a Union guy who shortly after its implementation was awarded "Legend" status by management. Akin to being awarded Employee of the year and completely inappropriate.

Guys gone now and is a very nice dude but shouldn't have been allowed within 50' of the negotiating table.
Ah sorry. One of the hazards of a merger is not knowing the history of the shotgun wedding partner.
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The TPA and LOA agreements spell out the next steps and among the later steps are dealing with a PBS solution, finding conditions/terms that are acceptable, and then letting all ~2,600 pilots of the combined airline vote yes or no to it. Until then this thread is a moot point.
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Originally Posted by 757Driver View Post
Was just a joke NT. Alaska's last disasterous contract was spearheaded by a Union guy who shortly after its implementation was awarded "Legend" status by management. Akin to being awarded Employee of the year and completely inappropriate.

Guys gone now and is a very nice dude but shouldn't have been allowed within 50' of the negotiating table.
Plenty of nice guys out there, at least on the outside. Judas Iscariot was a nice guy as well, I'm sure. In fact, his relatives are on both sides of the table.
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Old 01-17-2017, 04:48 PM
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Make no mistake, with our vacation day trading, PBS is a concession. There is a reason why the company wants it and PBS was forced at many other carriers via bankruptcy. Reduced staffing = $$$. Having had my QOL screwed up by PBS in a previous life, a 5 hour minimum daily guarantee (not a trip rig) would be a must...otherwise tell the company to pack sand. At AK we don't enjoy the luxury of so many transcons like VX.
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Old 01-17-2017, 05:04 PM
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Can you explain vacation day trading?
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Old 01-17-2017, 06:02 PM
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At AK we bid and are awarded vacation in 7 day chunks. After the awards we can trade vacation days 1 for 1 with fellow pilots (Cpts to Cpts and FOs to FOs). So, let's say your buddy was awarded vacation over the week of Thanksgiving and you were not. He could trade you the day before Thanksgiving (the 23rd) for one of your vacation days and then you could bid a line with weekends off with a 2, 3 or 4 day trip over Thanksgiving which would be dropped (because it touched your vacation day). Simply pick up a trip elsewhere in the month to get your credit back up. One vacation day just got you Thanksgiving off. This loophole is costing the company $ as it forces them to hire more reserves and offer more premium pay (150%) to cover flying over the holidays. With PBS you could be assigned a trip on Thanksgiving day (the 24th)...still honoring your vacation day on the 23rd. PBS also helps the company in "transition" from one month to the next. Under our current system, a carryover pairing (one that starts at the end of one month and continues into the next) can be used to knock pairings off of your schedule in the coming month...if there is a conflict. This is another good way to massage your schedule as you can pick something up elsewhere in the month. Again, this costs the company $ as they have to hire more reserves to cover the "dropped" trips or offer premium pay to entice folks to pick them up. At AK, PBS would be a $ saving "win" for the company. Not even touching the subject of "step" trading, there are a lot of ways to manipulate your schedule here if you know what you are doing...and it drives the company crazy. Does that make sense?

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You can swap out any of your 7 vacation days in a week with another pilot? First day, last day, day 4 of 7? No restrictions with another pilot?
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Old 01-17-2017, 08:15 PM
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That is correct
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