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Old 02-10-2017, 06:57 AM
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I love PBS. Commutable trips with 16-18 days off per month and some control over what days I work, and I'm not senior.
Please stop correlating days off to pbs. I also have had 16-19 days off since I started here. That has to do with math. 70 hr min and productive trips. This all goes away soon and pbs gets exponentially worse with worse trips.

PBS is a concession fellow Vxers. There are several of us pounding on union doors saying how bad we want as is. Please do some research and don't claim the vx pilot group wants pbs. It's misguided.
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Please stop correlating days off to pbs. I also have had 16-19 days off since I started here. That has to do with math. 70 hr min and productive trips. This all goes away soon and pbs gets exponentially worse with worse trips.

PBS is a concession fellow Vxers. There are several of us pounding on union doors saying how bad we want as is. Please do some research and don't claim the vx pilot group wants pbs. It's misguided.
Ding ding ding.....winner winner chicken dinner!
Pairings and work rules are what matter. Another thing to observe is our new software, Crew Access. It makes emaestro look real good. If that is any sign what of PBS may look like here at Alaska, God help us all.

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Old 02-10-2017, 08:54 AM
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In the earnings call management said the 320 is a bad transcon airplane and a great north south airplane. Do you VXers think your highly productive trips are going to remain the same? Read the transcript your flying is going to change to shorter legs and lower productivity so all those 18 day off PBS created lines will be gone.
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Old 02-10-2017, 10:35 AM
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I said I like pbs, I'm not speaking for all vx pilots. Lighten up dbags.
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Old 02-10-2017, 10:44 AM
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Originally Posted by OCCP View Post
I said I like pbs, I'm not speaking for all vx pilots. Lighten up dbags.
Don't make me turn this jet around! Let's focus on the important things. As previously stated it won't matter whether it's hard lines or some fancy new PBS program, if the pairings suck then it won't matter. Pairing construction. Language to help us to that end and a big fat signing bonus with our JCBA. We need to stay united. Cheers!

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Old 02-10-2017, 10:51 AM
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I'm all about the language, and money!
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Old 02-10-2017, 12:31 PM
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I said I like pbs, I'm not speaking for all vx pilots. Lighten up dbags.
Pointing out your misunderstanding of what's really driving your QOL does not make one a douche bag.

I think it's important to properly correlate cause and effect. If enough people follow you down the path you're leading, there could be a real detrimental effect on MY QOL.
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Old 02-11-2017, 12:22 AM
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Since the JCBA is going to mediation/arbitration: 1) pay will be set at 6th because that is where we fall in the line up. 2) scope will be set likely to allow current orders for Skywest on the E-175 and no scope for Horizon so unlimited E-175 growth for them. 3) Retirement again will be matched to average at 6th place........ So PBS is dead on arrival whether it is good or not....
 
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Since the JCBA is going to mediation/arbitration: 1) pay will be set at 6th because that is where we fall in the line up. 2) scope will be set likely to allow current orders for Skywest on the E-175 and no scope for Horizon so unlimited E-175 growth for them. 3) Retirement again will be matched to average at 6th place........ So PBS is dead on arrival whether it is good or not....
5th, jb is 6th
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5th, jb is 6th
This is going to the 11th hour of mediation. Wouldn't expect anything less. (And that mediator would be the head of the arbitration panel.)

Size of the airline doesn't correlate to where we rank pay. Alaska has one of the best balance sheets and highest profit margin in the world among airlines. Your pilots took significant cuts to get Alaska where they are. 5th in pay is a joke. Not happening.

No scope for horizon is not happening. That would be an absolute no vote. And no arbitration panel will agree to that. That idea is not even industry average. This is a new era.

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