Say reason? I bet it does

 

I also bet it will pass. It is a decent TA.

 

Every FA I've flown with said they were happy with it.

 

They need to get something on paper. It's probably not all they wanted, but there are some nice things in there (i.e. 1.3 for reroutes)

 

Scope issues and specific language that explicitly says the company can do whatever they want, if the contract does not preclude it. If (big IF) that specific statement is limited to the scope clause, then I can't see this getting voted down. However, if (and we know the company will do this) it is used against every section of the contract, then it will seriously kill many of the gains.

There is no points system listed, but if the company wanted to keep it, and the contract doesn't preclude them from doing so, then they are looking at a jumble of grievance issues that won't be rectified in any amount of reasonable time. Just look at our issues...they make up crap out of whole cloth and 15 months later we still haven't resolved issues that are pretty clear cut.

Absent the scope issue, I would think this is a pretty decent first contract...problem is, the company said one thing about the PCH issue and we are still waiting on arbitration and will probably lose.

 

Interesting. Not a single senior FA I've spoken to seems to be willing to vote for it. The only ones who say they're voting for it are the ones who haven't read it yet.

 

I dunno about the seniority issue, but I asked the 11 I have flown with over the last three days. 3 hard yes, 7 going to vote yes even though they don't like it, 1 hard no.

Of course, I wouldn't bet the house on this as the outcome and it isn't a double blind study and most likely not a representative spread, but since they released the details, it has been overwhelming yes (with a meh attitude) from the peeps I have flown with. However, the prevailing thought is to get something on paper.

 

I'm hearing the same...lots to not be happy about, but getting rid of "at will" and a few other things will be a slight improvement. Though, their union doesn't seem to be listening to much, just steaming full speed ahead.

 

At least now they will have a “status quo” if it passes just like the pilots for the next go around. Lets face it, the deck is stacked against labor in this industry as demonstrated time and time again.

 

Supposedly some significant financing, for this ridiculous monstrosity in FL, is contingent upon the passing of this TA. You know what that means. They NEED A DEAL and the FAs have a ton of leverage because of that.

I would be voting no. A senior FA getting guarantee (assuming 70 hours - I don’t know their rules) isn’t even grossing 40k.

If the company truly needs this done, there isn’t a chance in hell they should being voting this in. Given they came to the table with this deal, seemingly unannounced, I think it’s pretty safe to say they need it wrapped up.

FAs have leverage. Use it.