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Old 11-15-2017 | 01:39 PM
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Originally Posted by j3cub
I just heard from someone who was in a class that EG came into and said we are fully staffed through 2019. They want 6 crews per plane. We are at 10. No hiring for the forsee able future. They boned up hiring to prepare for the transition bubble and will let attritian even things out. Sorry to burst your bubble. Basic economics. Nothing to see here.


We are not even close to 10 CREWS per airplane. We are close to 10 PILOTS per airplane.


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Old 11-15-2017 | 02:23 PM
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Originally Posted by j3cub
I just heard from someone who was in a class that EG came into and said we are fully staffed through 2019. They want 6 crews per plane. We are at 10. No hiring for the forsee able future. They boned up hiring to prepare for the transition bubble and will let attritian even things out. Sorry to burst your bubble. Basic economics. Nothing to see here.
This is a growth company, we will continue to grow and hire after the transition
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Old 11-15-2017 | 03:00 PM
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Originally Posted by j3cub
I just heard from someone who was in a class that EG came into and said we are fully staffed through 2019. They want 6 crews per plane. We are at 10. No hiring for the forsee able future. They boned up hiring to prepare for the transition bubble and will let attritian even things out. Sorry to burst your bubble. Basic economics. Nothing to see here.
Fleet plan by end of next year will be 82 planes. 6 crews per plane would be 984. There will be plenty of hiring during the transition.
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Old 11-15-2017 | 03:32 PM
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So many alternate facts its hard to keep up
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Old 11-15-2017 | 03:49 PM
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This is looking a little like 2011-2013, when hiring slowed to a crawl and upgrade jumped from 2 to 5+ years. Not saying this will come to pass, but wouldn’t be surprised.
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Old 11-16-2017 | 03:47 AM
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Originally Posted by tailendcharlie
This is looking a little like 2011-2013, when hiring slowed to a crawl and upgrade jumped from 2 to 5+ years. Not saying this will come to pass, but wouldn’t be surprised.
How? Look at the 2018 headcount on G4Connect....
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Old 11-16-2017 | 05:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Beretta01
How? Look at the 2018 headcount on G4Connect....
The headcount is all over the place for 2018. Expect to see Miami Air and Sun Country at a lot of our gates.
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Old 11-16-2017 | 07:03 AM
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Originally Posted by grnclvrs
The headcount is all over the place for 2018. Expect to see Miami Air and Sun Country at a lot of our gates.
With attrition and lack of pilots showing up for new hire class I doubt Sun Country will be doing much sub flying. Tried to hire 8 in November and only 4 showed up. Jude has made it clear that the pay rates will be addressed in the next contract negotiations.... that’s not until 2020. I don’t think Sun Country will be around in 2020.
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Old 11-16-2017 | 09:03 AM
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With attrition and lack of pilots showing up for new hire class I doubt Sun Country will be doing much sub flying. Tried to hire 8 in November and only 4 showed up. Jude has made it clear that the pay rates will be addressed in the next contract negotiations.... that’s not until 2020. I don’t think Sun Country will be around in 2020.
2020? Good lord. Yeah good luck with that. I had a friend who was an FO there leave to become a street Captain at Piedmont. What does that tell you.
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Old 11-16-2017 | 09:47 AM
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Originally Posted by CAirBear
2020? Good lord. Yeah good luck with that. I had a friend who was an FO there leave to become a street Captain at Piedmont. What does that tell you.
I heard about him. Just resigned. I heard another FO left for Endeavor.. More pilots are leaving than they can hire. Their growth plan is going to be hard to accomplish with the substandard pay, schedules, and retirement.
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