Margaritaville

Maury owns the BOD and they do whatever he says. You know this. Everyone knows this.

Be Realistic

Come on, there is a limit. He may own the BOD, but he does not control the share price. It tanks and he's screwed.

I am also starting to question the whole MG future. If he is going to continue to micro manage the airline or even be heavily involved, why step down from the CEO position. (there was a rumor not too long back he may have health issues). I bet that we hear less and less from him or about him over the coming months. Give it time and you may end up with a bundh of pilots here who don't even know who he is.

Margaritaville

No way man. This airline is his baby and he won't let go until he croaks. He may not keep office hours any more but rest assured he's still the captain.

He stepped back publicly because if all it goes south (and it's heading that way) he can blame someone else.

akulahunter

Seriously, there are enough negatives about the company that you shouldn't need to fabricate misinformation to make it seem worse.

There are a bunch of people on here who have it all figured out and KNOW exactly what's going to happen in the next year. Doom and Gloom for sure! The problem is, just like with this post, no one spends the time to get any facts before spewing their "knowledge."

Anyone with 1st grade reading comprehension can open our CBA to Section 26. It's a whopping one whole paragraph that says the CBA runs until July 29, 2021 and can be amended if written intent is given between 90-180 days prior to that date. The last time I perused a calendar, it's not July (or even February) 2023. Which means your two year comment is ridiculous and you should have been called out on it in the first couple of posts. However, the other guys that "know" what's going to happen are just as intellectually lazy. If I remember the actual timeline correctly (should be backed up by the union videos), the union sent the letter of intent to open negotiations in February (which was at the beginning of the window). After that I don't think the company met with the union until April to work out the details. Then, I believe negotiations started in June with the first TAs at the end of that month. According to the last video, I think the union said there were seven TAs (Medical Standards, Furlough, Seniority, CA Auth, POW, Union Security, and Union Business not in the video specifically, but pieced together). Granted, most were “throw-away” sections, unless they happen to have affected you personally, but still seven.

Thus, in the real world, we have been negotiating for a year and have seven TAs vs your ridiculous claim of two years and two sections. At least misinform in the realm of the actual truth. Better yet just take 20 minutes and get the facts and post those instead. It's laughable that YOU said "Here's the math." And to be honest, I hope the legacies DO get the details of their TAs out before we agree on one. Let them raise the bar and set the standard this time. If that happens, maybe we won't be underpaid by 30% by the end of next year.

As for my own editorial commentary (no real or imagined crystal ball), I would be surprised if we don't have a TA this year. If we don't, there are some tough times ahead.

310skying

Preach, I’ll second this as a factual straight forward analysis of the current situation.

It’s a turd sandwich but it’s not the one Marg, Nate, and KC are selling.

Be Realistic

As was pointed out on the facebook page, a section that was TA'd may need to be revisited if the negotiations drag - they might be out of date 6 months later.

Be Realistic

Stepped away so he can blame someone else? Nonsense. There is more to this than that. Since when does Maury give a rats ass what people think of him? He is despised by employees, customers, and contractors. Somethings missing here.

JR isn't there to stroke his ego. He isn't there as a fall guy. I think Maury's time is up at the helm, maybe he wants to be running the Bates Motel on the water. Maybe he's sick and can't continue. Maybe his wife put her foot down.

A lot will be revealed in the next 12-18 months.

Margaritaville

What's missing is that the investors and BOD love him and their affection is all he truly cares about besides the value of his stock. If you need evidence listen to an investor conference how Maury personally interacts with them. How he gushes with pride and optimism at the questions he likes and takes great personal insult to the questions he doesn't like. If the Sunseeker and Small Base Model experiments fail someone has to take the fall. Ain't gonna be Maury.

Maury is still at the helm I assure you. He's chairman of the board and I promise you JR isn't making any major decisions without his approval. JR is just in charge of the day to day stuff Maury isn't interested in. Glorified COO. The rest of that are some humorous maybes. Have you ever actually met Maury? His ego drives him. Nobody is gonna tell him what to do and he gets energy every time he sees that big Allegiant logo at the end of the Strip. He'll die at his desk.

Yes it will.

PilotX2

Can we start a new hire base thread to replace this one which is non-functional?

Margaritaville

DSM, ATW, GRR, FNT, (PVU for a few months until its full).

Now it's functional.

If you need directions on how to start a new thread, look for the APC help link.