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G4er 06-09-2025 03:07 PM


Originally Posted by jimmy8 (Post 3919125)
So how bout that proffer

Formally requesting arbitration and publicly saying that you will refuse it if granted… Will not get us the proffer. I wonder what goes through GUs head sometimes.

Captainbfv 06-09-2025 08:39 PM


Originally Posted by G4er (Post 3919195)
Formally requesting arbitration and publicly saying that you will refuse it if granted… Will not get us the proffer. I wonder what goes through GUs head sometimes.

THAT EXACT DETAIL has boggled my mind. Basically asks to go to arbitration bc NMB mediations “are an impasse” and then says “We’re not going to accept it”.

whats going to end up happening is the NMB like the judge two weeks ago is going to call this out as a strategic move to not negotiate and try to obtain a cooling of period. We’ll see what happens l, I just hope we don’t get iced out.

captnate702 06-09-2025 09:34 PM


Originally Posted by Captainbfv (Post 3919252)
THAT EXACT DETAIL has boggled my mind. Basically asks to go to arbitration bc NMB mediations “are an impasse” and then says “We’re not going to accept it”.

whats going to end up happening is the NMB like the judge two weeks ago is going to call this out as a strategic move to not negotiate and try to obtain a cooling of period. We’ll see what happens l, I just hope we don’t get iced out.

we’ve already been iced out. We’ve had one week of negotiations with a mediator since October! That is three days of negotiations in seven months. Go ahead and ask the union reps which days they’ve met with management and the mediator: it’s only those three days in DC when managenent flew out there on MG’s jet. That’s it. Three days of negotiations in seven months. That is being iced out.

how JR and his lapdogs can be so in love with Unterseher is bizarre. Unterseher has led them right off a cliff. They are despised and will be outcast just like Robles. I just can’t figure out why they’ve been out for union business when we aren’t negotiating???

JR just found another way to not work and have his “brothers” cover for him. Pathetic. Now he doesn’t even need to call fatigue to avoid flying, he can just milk the FPL and have us pay his salary.

tom11011 06-10-2025 05:00 PM


Originally Posted by captnate702 (Post 3919254)
we’ve already been iced out. We’ve had one week of negotiations with a mediator since October! That is three days of negotiations in seven months. Go ahead and ask the union reps which days they’ve met with management and the mediator: it’s only those three days in DC when managenent flew out there on MG’s jet. That’s it. Three days of negotiations in seven months. That is being iced out.

how JR and his lapdogs can be so in love with Unterseher is bizarre. Unterseher has led them right off a cliff. They are despised and will be outcast just like Robles. I just can’t figure out why they’ve been out for union business when we aren’t negotiating???

JR just found another way to not work and have his “brothers” cover for him. Pathetic. Now he doesn’t even need to call fatigue to avoid flying, he can just milk the FPL and have us pay his salary.

You should probably see a doctor.

SloNLow 06-10-2025 08:41 PM

Ummm. The trustee webinar today. In my entire career as a Part 121 pilot I’ve never heard so many F bombs, BS bombs, just cussing left & right. I’ll just leave it there as my ALPA card is already signed & delivered. No regrets.


captnate702 06-11-2025 06:11 AM


Originally Posted by tom11011 (Post 3919411)
You should probably see a doctor.

Teamster tom I wanna hear try and defend the IBT’s latest debacle. Tell us how it’s all management’s fault, the teamsters are perfect, O’Brien is gonna have our backs and Unterseher is doing his best.

BroncoFtbl 06-11-2025 11:38 PM


Originally Posted by captnate702 (Post 3919502)
Teamster tom I wanna hear try and defend the IBT’s latest debacle. Tell us how it’s all management’s fault, the teamsters are perfect, O’Brien is gonna have our backs and Unterseher is doing his best.


I just wanna know which one is Greg, which one is Corey, and which one is Cameron. I know you’re in here fellas.

BroncoFtbl 06-13-2025 01:01 AM

I heard that someone asked who started the 60 Minutes story….

Cameron Graff and Corey Berger were there when drew wells and Greg Unterseher were interviewed. A firm named Berlin Rosen was hired to do the hit job.

IBT has always been so desperate for a win, they’ll close the company down.

tailendcharlie 06-13-2025 02:29 PM

Can't wait to see how GU & the Teamsters are going to spin this latest resounding defeat into good news.....

jimmy8 06-13-2025 02:59 PM


Originally Posted by tailendcharlie (Post 3920233)
Can't wait to see how GU & the Teamsters are going to spin this latest resounding defeat into good news.....

trust me I’m no ibt guy but to be fair this is a prime nmb tactic to hang this over either sides head so they can force a contract ie. southwest and hopefully us.


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