teamster tom you’ve been wrong about everything for years. You worshipped Andrew with religious zeal and even argued he and his culinary lawyer were more than capable of getting us a legacy contract even tho they had no experience. I told a million times all the risks we were taking as a pilot group letting Robles run the local like a mobster and you called me names and stuck your head in the sand. How’d that turnout for you?

i called for going to Alpa after the emergency trusteeship and you called me names, mostly a management shill, and said switching to Alpa would just delay negotiations and that Unterseher and JR were up to the task. How’d that workout? Do you really think we are better off today than if we’d voted in Alpa 2 years ago?

you only live in ignorance. Head in the clouds and in the sand, remarkably at the same time.

all I can say with 100% certainty is that the mediator said there was a June deadline and some in the union believe him and others think he’s bluffing. I’ve seen a dn heard the texts, messages, phone calls where the June deadline is referenced. Don’t believe me? Ask a union rep they will not deny it. They might try to shrug it off like it doesn’t matter, or some will no comment on it. I can tell you loose lips JK might tell you it’s the mediator bluffing or just telling the union what management is feeding him. But it absolutely happened.

teamster tom, good luck keeping that head in the sand. Don’t let the crabs in your nostrils.

 

Bullllllsh*t. We are going to find out on the town hall call won't we. Somehow you and like 2 other people seem to have all the inside knowledge, all the leaks come straight to you apparently.

 

Haaaaah you admit that me and select few get all the leaks…

what’s implicit in your comment is that those leaks are correct

just ask the right questions to the right people and it’s easy to know what’s going on. When you have union drama and politics like we’ve had for the last 5-6 years everybody leans and gossips. They’re all trying to spin their narrative and build their angle. Ask the right questions and question the answers they’re giving you and it’s actually pretty easy to read the tea leaves.

Perfect example is this June deadline from the mediator. When you see and hear union members fighting over whether the mediator was serious when he said the deadline is June then simple deductive reasoning is that a June deadline was exists. Not that hard teamster tom - if you know how to think for yourself but that’s never been your strong suit

you can curse all you want but nothing I said was wrong. It was all facts.

keep worshipping the teamsters. I’m seriously hoping that someday you’ll be able to support Alpa when they are voted in. But in the meantime, keep campaigning for the IBT tom the teamster!

 

What are you talking about? I support ALPA, a simple search will verify. I simply said I didn't think it was wise to make a change during negotiations as it would set the timeline back. Now with the acquisition of sun country, they can change tomorrow and I will support it.

Not sure what's happening with the alpa drive over the lasts few months but I suspect if they decide to ramp it up again its going forward.

 

F9 pilot here. Rooting for you all to bring home some serious gains. Our management seems to be looking at your negotiations to set the bar for the ULCC market.

Last summer Allegiant management sent out proposed pay rates to the pilot group. Would anyone mind reposting those numbers?

 

this how uninformed you have been historically. Back in 2023 you were telling everybody that the retention bonus was a handshake deal that could be taken away at anytime:

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the idea that you call horsesh*t in my posts (yet never show where I’ve been wrong) while you spread blatant lies is laughable…

teamster tom, you epitomize what it means to be a corrupt and lying union mobster wannabe. No wonder you love the IBT so much.

still gonna tell us that we shouldn’t vote in Alpa because it’ll slow down negotiations?

 

I will try and find the numbers, but they were nowhere near setting a bar on anything. Pay was a 5 year offer, and it took to year 3 or 4 to get to anything resembling Alaska type rates.

 

My friend, I really hope you guys don’t have to wait for us in order to get something new. If so, you’ll be waiting a very long time. Mediator deadlines…company BS…union BS….he said she said….none of it matters. Bottom line is that we’ll get a deal when the company needs a deal, and I don’t see that happening any time soon.

 

i think top of scale was $340 for 12yr CA. Will have to dig through old emails to find them. Middle chunk of the CA rates were super low comparatively. Biggest hike in rates were towards the end. That was my recollection of why they were flawed besides being too low.

 

Allegiant's Proposal dated 5/12/2024

Year -- CA -- FO
1 -- $250.26 -- $113.60
2 -- $255.59 -- $154.32
3 -- $264.07 -- $169.60
4 -- $280.96 -- $185.78
5 -- $300.00 -- $196.84
6 -- $302.00 -- $205.24
7 -- $304.00 -- $208.20
8 -- $308.34 -- $210.05
9 -- $314.33 -- $211.32
10 -- $320.34 -- $212.68
11 -- $323.16 -- $213.67
12 -- $340.21 -- $215.11