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03-14-2026 | 03:36 PM
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03-14-2026 | 08:51 PM
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Yep. And the IBT just ignores the 300 pound gorilla in the room, which is the seniority list integration with Sun Country. It's going to get ugly & we're unprepared for this fight.
ALPA ALPA ALPA ASAP
03-15-2026 | 02:59 PM
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Explain? There's a number of integration scenarios posted already, seem to overall indicate Allegiant pilots do well in integration.
03-15-2026 | 08:59 PM
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Guess I could have missed it but I don’t recall our union posting any integration scenarios. DOH? Relative seniority? Fences? How can you assume Allegiant pilots do well? I think ALPA is going to squash IBT in this battle.
03-16-2026 | 02:00 AM
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Yes, both DOH only and various Relative seniority scenarios are out there. Yes, if put to a vote to both groups, alpa will be the surviving entity.
03-16-2026 | 04:09 AM
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Both sides will never agree. It will go to arbitration, the results will be within a couple of percentage points of relative seniority. Both sides will say it was unfair. World will keep turning, sun will come up the next day.
This is the one thing I believe Teamsters cannot F up but then again I am shocked that we let a trustee come in and fire our negotiator, put a new one in, say that one was going to fast, fire him etc etc.
We as a collective group have allowed GU to stay in power for way to long and we are, and have been getting what we have allowed as a group.
03-16-2026 | 05:46 AM
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All these List out there are list created by individual pilots playing around to see what might a intergrated list look like. Neither union as put out any list. SLI is a long ways off and a lot has to happen to get to that point in the process.
03-16-2026 | 06:53 AM
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Yes true. But when you look at all the integration scenarios, I would think this is going to be one of the easier ones honestly. I think if a 3 year fence when up around the bases it would be very fair. I do not imagine many from Allegiant would want to bid into MSP otherwise they would just work at SC. However SC pilots might like an opportunity to bid into a Florida base (or one of our other ~20ish bases).
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