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Old 03-25-2026 | 02:23 PM
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Originally Posted by SloNLow
It would be really neat if we could vote in a TA next month, thus, starting the clock on receiving our retention bonus pay out.
You must be mistaken, the "people in the know" told you that a TA would be finished in Feb. Check your bank account and see if it's in there.....the 'leakers' and keyboard warriors have spoken. You must have not gotten the memo from the cool kids with friends in the NC.
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Old 03-25-2026 | 09:35 PM
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Originally Posted by SladeTin
Lol, did you read Greg’s email about the “challenging” situation and hundred of millions in extra fuel costs? Did that sound like someone that’s ready to pay the pilots a bunch of extra money?
Cry me a river! They are gonna pay. And if they don’t, there isn’t enough WD-40 to make them planes move with 1400 piszed off pilots sitting in them.
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Old 03-26-2026 | 06:15 AM
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if they're not gonna pay theres plenty of places that will. people are tired of waiting & watching them build a failed hotel and now buy an airline. you have people come here and post how they've gone to a major and have 16+ days off a month and feel their QOL is better than it was at allegiant. they're now adding in a booking app to help TDY/VBD with overnights, probably a sign of things to come, overnights for the rest of us. repeatedly we get emails about how great we've done during winter and pat ourselves on the back, then see no progress in negotiations. no picketing or anything from the SPC being approved by IBT to increase pressure during this merger period. where are the billboards, the trucks, advertisements? we were told we have all this $ at our disposal, after elections completed, to increase pressure on negotiations and nothing. SPC saying they're waiting and ready but arent being allowed.
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Old 03-26-2026 | 03:23 PM
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Originally Posted by AirparkBandit
if they're not gonna pay theres plenty of places that will. people are tired of waiting & watching them build a failed hotel and now buy an airline. you have people come here and post how they've gone to a major and have 16+ days off a month and feel their QOL is better than it was at allegiant. they're now adding in a booking app to help TDY/VBD with overnights, probably a sign of things to come, overnights for the rest of us. repeatedly we get emails about how great we've done during winter and pat ourselves on the back, then see no progress in negotiations. no picketing or anything from the SPC being approved by IBT to increase pressure during this merger period. where are the billboards, the trucks, advertisements? we were told we have all this $ at our disposal, after elections completed, to increase pressure on negotiations and nothing. SPC saying they're waiting and ready but arent being allowed.
The old: “let’s drive a truck around HQ and honk really loud so management gives us what we want! Buy the billboards that say “enough is enough” until management gives us what we want!”

these tactics are just posturing, something the teamsters do to placate their membership. In reality it’s just whining: a temper tantrum from labor. Not to say it doesn’t feel good sometimes to hold up signs outside the airport, or march around HQ to express some frustration; but if you still believe this is gonna pressure management at all then you’re being naive.

unfortunately we don’t have the Tampa bay times in our back pocket like last time. That was legitimate pressure.
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Old 03-26-2026 | 05:20 PM
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Originally Posted by captnate702
The old: “let’s drive a truck around HQ and honk really loud so management gives us what we want! Buy the billboards that say “enough is enough” until management gives us what we want!”

these tactics are just posturing, something the teamsters do to placate their membership. In reality it’s just whining: a temper tantrum from labor. Not to say it doesn’t feel good sometimes to hold up signs outside the airport, or march around HQ to express some frustration; but if you still believe this is gonna pressure management at all then you’re being naive.

unfortunately we don’t have the Tampa bay times in our back pocket like last time. That was legitimate pressure.
That was actually a very successful picket that made national news and had millions of views on socials. Passenger reliability concerns were so high the company had to put out multiple info blast to inform pax their flights would be staffed. It's not a teamsters exclusive, Fedex just had another picket somewhat recently and all 3 legacy airlines did multiple pickets before their last contracts. It's unusual for any airline not to keep the pressure up with them when negotiations drag.
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Old 03-26-2026 | 05:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Bitcoin
That was actually a very successful picket that made national news and had millions of views on socials. Passenger reliability concerns were so high the company had to put out multiple info blast to inform pax their flights would be staffed. It's not a teamsters exclusive, Fedex just had another picket somewhat recently and all 3 legacy airlines did multiple pickets before their last contracts. It's unusual for any airline not to keep the pressure up with them when negotiations drag.
John q public: Do they have a job? Can they afford to put gas in their car? F___k them.

You better hope and pray the company doesn't pull everything off the table & go home. Read a newspaper. You're so far out of touch with reality it's sickening.
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Old 03-26-2026 | 06:48 PM
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Originally Posted by tailendcharlie
John q public: Do they have a job? Can they afford to put gas in their car? F___k them.

You better hope and pray the company doesn't pull everything off the table & go home. Read a newspaper. You're so far out of touch with reality it's sickening.
I did read the news from last week below and before that something about spending a couple billion on a hotel and airline acquisition but nothing on pilots since 2016 except some monopoly money that the bank won't cash. If you weren't here last time we went through hard times the airline did very well and is still setup to outperform during difficult times but you don't have to take my word for it, just read the bold text from the company email yesterday.

Allegiant Raises 1Q Profit Outlook as Strong Demand Offsets Higher Fuel Costs
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Old 03-26-2026 | 07:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Bitcoin
I did read the news from last week below and before that something about spending a couple billion on a hotel and airline acquisition but nothing on pilots since 2016 except some monopoly money that the bank won't cash. If you weren't here last time we went through hard times the airline did very well and is still setup to outperform during difficult times but you don't have to take my word for it, just read the bold text from the company email yesterday.

Allegiant Raises 1Q Profit Outlook as Strong Demand Offsets Higher Fuel Costs
No argument about the missteps this company has made / truly, I'm with you on that but this isn't the 2008 Allegiant with a fleet of $2 million MD-80's they can afford to park. This airline & pretty much every airline are fu<ked at $4.00/gal.
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Old 03-26-2026 | 08:01 PM
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Originally Posted by tailendcharlie
No argument about the missteps this company has made / truly, I'm with you on that but this isn't the 2008 Allegiant with a fleet of $2 million MD-80's they can afford to park. This airline & pretty much every airline are fu<ked at $4.00/gal.
Not at all, read the ceo email from yesterday. No other airline owns the vast majority of their fleet giving capacity flexibility along with the lowest CASM in the industry. It's not even close, some airlines have more than double our CASM. Due to the low acquisition cost, most of the fleet is owned while still maintaining a strong balance sheet. Last time we saw new customers that were flexing down to the low cost sector at a rate higher much higher than those choosing not to travel. We're actually much better setup than 2008 with significantly more fuel efficient aircraft.
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Old 03-27-2026 | 08:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Bitcoin
Not at all, read the ceo email from yesterday. No other airline owns the vast majority of their fleet giving capacity flexibility along with the lowest CASM in the industry. It's not even close, some airlines have more than double our CASM. Due to the low acquisition cost, most of the fleet is owned while still maintaining a strong balance sheet. Last time we saw new customers that were flexing down to the low cost sector at a rate higher much higher than those choosing not to travel. We're actually much better setup than 2008 with significantly more fuel efficient aircraft.
I made a similar point a few post back. During the peak of global financial crisis with $140 barrel oil and 7% unemployment, algt revenue was up 40% in 2008 along with double digit profit margins. While they were thriving there was close to 20 airlines globally that filed bankruptcy worldwide in 08-09, that is exactly why Maury wanted it to last longer. If your jets are owned instead of leased it doesn't matter what you paid from them, 2, 50, or 100 million as long as your balance sheet is healthy, which it is. I would have to agree, you're in a stronger spot now with mostly owned fuel efficient aircraft in the most resilient sector of the industry. I think your management realizes a lot are buying into the fear and this is a great time for them to get the best deal they can get.
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