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Old 03-15-2025 | 03:02 PM
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Originally Posted by CptGSXR
Don't know why everyone here is so up in arms about some fictional unicorn contract. If I was managment I'd send a LBFO with about a 20% pay cut and renege on the retention bonus, just claiming they're about to go out of buisness. With the way pilots are shooting approaches into PIE, everyone is about to find out how Allegiant is just ValuJet 2.0. But hey, maybe some one will buy you out after that SwampSeeker sale. Goodluck
The way people fly is the only thing we have going for us. If you want a 10+ mile straight in so you can be stable then cut your pecker off, start an Instagram, and go to widget.
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Old 03-15-2025 | 08:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Moist
The way people fly is the only thing we have going for us. If you want a 10+ mile straight in so you can be stable then cut your pecker off, start an Instagram, and go to widget.
Guess we now know who did the 250 kts , still clean go around at 50 ft off the runway. Nice job there Ghost Rider. Did you also do it inverted?
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Old 03-16-2025 | 08:07 AM
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If anyone thinks we're going to see anywhere near those Fedex mailer rates they're dreaming. We'll be lucky to see 20% at this point. Not as though we'll ever have any say as to when or if we can vote on something. We've lost all power as a pilot group. It's between the unelected union and company, we're just victims.
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Old 03-16-2025 | 08:26 AM
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Originally Posted by canuckian
If anyone thinks we're going to see anywhere near those Fedex mailer rates they're dreaming. We'll be lucky to see 20% at this point. Not as though we'll ever have any say as to when or if we can vote on something. We've lost all power as a pilot group. It's between the unelected union and company, we're just victims.
No one, least of all the union, seems to be talking about the recent email. Other than the Covid outlier, has anyone been around the industry long enough to recognize impending downsizing when they see it?
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Old 03-16-2025 | 10:49 AM
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Originally Posted by tailendcharlie
No one, least of all the union, seems to be talking about the recent email. Other than the Covid outlier, has anyone been around the industry long enough to recognize impending downsizing when they see it?
teamsters will probably ask for delta + 10 rates and then blame Trump and union hating politicians for why they won’t release us.

Can anybody think of how the teamsters could have made our position worse??? I seriously don’t see how we could be in a worse position than we are now.
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Old 03-16-2025 | 01:38 PM
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Originally Posted by captnate702
teamsters will probably ask for delta + 10 rates and then blame Trump and union hating politicians for why they won’t release us.

Can anybody think of how the teamsters could have made our position worse??? I seriously don’t see how we could be in a worse position than we are now.
personally I hope we get put on ice. Might wake some guys up to finally make the move to ALPA. This year is lost anyway
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Old 03-16-2025 | 01:40 PM
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Can we at least have our $10 million back? We can pretend its a raise. 🫠
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Old 03-17-2025 | 12:44 PM
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Originally Posted by jimmy8
personally I hope we get put on ice. Might wake some guys up to finally make the move to ALPA. This year is lost anyway
Well how April goes. I hope for the best, but an absolute indicator of getting iced is no dates after April.
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Old 03-17-2025 | 02:35 PM
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Originally Posted by jimmy8
personally I hope we get put on ice. Might wake some guys up to finally make the move to ALPA. This year is lost anyway
I’m all for ALPA. There’s a concern that the retention bonus disappears if we change to ALPA. Idk if that’s the case or not. IIRC the company had a FAQ on the previous APLA drive and said that wasn’t the case.
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Old 03-17-2025 | 02:48 PM
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Originally Posted by G4poor
I’m all for ALPA. There’s a concern that the retention bonus disappears if we change to ALPA. Idk if that’s the case or not. IIRC the company had a FAQ on the previous APLA drive and said that wasn’t the case.
Pure Greg Unterseher scare tactic, like suggesting everyone would be at risk of losing health care coverage.
Think about it - if "Agreements/LOA's/MOU's between the company & Teamsters are invalid", then that means our entire CBA also goes away?
Doesn't work that way.
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