Based on some of the rhetoric in the TH email I'm seriously questioning whether events have overtaken negotiations & is what's been offered no longer still on the table. Waiting breathlessly for GU to brag about how much leverage we have.....

 

I hadn’t seen the email from TH. We are so screwed.

We need something to vote on ASAP. It is only gonna get worse from here.

 

Don't know why everyone here is so up in arms about some fictional unicorn contract. If I was managment I'd send a LBFO with about a 20% pay cut and renege on the retention bonus, just claiming they're about to go out of buisness. With the way pilots are shooting approaches into PIE, everyone is about to find out how Allegiant is just ValuJet 2.0. But hey, maybe some one will buy you out after that SwampSeeker sale. Goodluck

 

Not hiring near zero attrition near zero retirements & we're downsizing & who know how bad the world economic situation gets - if I'm management I'm backing way up - let's see where this all goes in the next 6-12 months before we lock in higher pilot costs. Gonna take that long anyway for GU to hold elections wash his hands of this & get the new group up to speed. Nothing's happening 'till 2026 at earliest.

 

Hard to believe how bad the IBT screwed us over on this one. I firmly believe at this point we don’t see another contract here. They’ll ride this one out and probably end up with a merger at some point. We have all lost millions. I hope the idiots in charge are proud of themselves.

 

You thought that was bad. I guess your missed the email from the SPC.
So now, apparently everyone that left a message the comments section is letting management win 😂

That’s where we are now. Could’ve had plenty of people “object” and instead of listening to the membership, they’re gonna double down and “show” the company how it’s done 🤦🏻‍♂️🤦🏻‍♂️🤦🏻‍♂️

So we’ve reached a point we’re even if the membership says “Send a TA”, the “leadership” says “Eat sh*****t” LOL.

 

What's happening with approaches in pie?

 

oh I saw that email, it was utterly pathetic and embarrassing. They think we’re stupid sycophants. They unity = believe the lies we are telling you.

they expect us to believe that it’s ALL management’s fault that AR was running around like a chicken with his head cut off for two years of negotiation (and the best leverage we’ll ever see in our careers). It’s ALL management’s fault that we’ve had FIVE negotiating committees that have delayed and delayed negotiations.

Our union has been a disorganized, drama disaster for years and they expect us to believe that all the blame for us not getting a deal falls on the company. We are not stupid.

Now they tell us that our comments in the survey are worthless and that we should just unite behind Greg’s cronies. It’s all pathetic. Our union is pathetic. Just give us a TA and let us decide our own futures.

 

The Big Short is tied somehow to unstacking!? This whole thing is just getting weird. Honestly I’m thinking a merger will occur before we ever see a new IBT contract or the retention bonus scam payout…so sad.

 

there really isn’t much difference with how the current NC is running things and how Andrew did.

At this point we might as well take the mailer for a 3 year deal, vote in ALPA and move on; or wait another year because pretty good chance the economy will be rebounding and Allegiant will be in a tough spot with Wall Street if they ******* up expanding again.
There are also hardly any qualified FOs to upgrade anymore