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flydiamond 11-04-2022 07:36 AM


Originally Posted by planejoe (Post 3526306)
For someone on the outside looking in after reading around here for a while... how is Allegiant recruiting people into classes at $57 / hour? 1500 hr CFIs are getting paid $33+ more to go to a regional so honest question, other than the flight school deal how is it not an emergency to raise first year pay? (and the rest of the scale too)

there's a sucker born every day....or they live in flint. or they live in phoenix and the recruiter told them they could get mesa in 2 months

SladeTin 11-04-2022 09:14 AM

Did I miss something? Section 3 has been passed back and forth by the company and union. No mention of it being TA’d.

KC135 11-04-2022 09:32 AM


Originally Posted by captnate702 (Post 3526166)
So are you one of those suckers? Or is it just the rest of us that are all suckers :)

No there were a lot that didn't fall for it and still aren't falling for the dangling carrot but unfortunately a lot did. I posted probably a year ago that you could be a legacy captain before we see a TA and that has played out. Most were confident we would get a TA soon and were telling others you would most likely get furloughed if you left for legacy. It was obvious back then the company was stalling so I was trying to help those who had/have career decisions.


Originally Posted by SladeTin (Post 3526409)
Did I miss something? Section 3 has been passed back and forth by the company and union. No mention of it being TA’d.

No you just missed people getting excited about passes that are still light years apart. The company does want a deal but only something just slightly better than SY's contract. Nothing to see here.

SladeTin 11-04-2022 09:45 AM


Originally Posted by KC135 (Post 3526417)
No you just missed people getting excited about passes that are still light years apart. The company does want a deal but only something just slightly better than SY's contract. Nothing to see here.

Yeah that’s what I thought. No idea what people were getting all worked up about. This is nothing more than another “we’re so close…please stay for the holidays!” I would bet a large sum of money that the company pass on pay numbers was nowhere near the Alaska rates.

9easy 11-04-2022 10:18 AM


Originally Posted by SladeTin (Post 3526423)
Yeah that’s what I thought. No idea what people were getting all worked up about. This is nothing more than another “we’re so close…please stay for the holidays!” I would bet a large sum of money that the company pass on pay numbers was nowhere near the Alaska rates.

AS rates are so last quarter. We should be at the A320 rates in the last AA/UA TA’s that got rejected.

flydiamond 11-04-2022 12:01 PM


Originally Posted by 9easy (Post 3526428)
AS rates are so last quarter. We should be at the A320 rates in the last AA/UA TA’s that got rejected.

i believe Alaska out did ua’s ta but was slightly behind AA’s aip. Which is fine because Alaska had snap up language.

Vettekid 11-04-2022 12:06 PM


Originally Posted by planejoe (Post 3526306)
For someone on the outside looking in after reading around here for a while... how is Allegiant recruiting people into classes at $57 / hour? 1500 hr CFIs are getting paid $33+ more to go to a regional so honest question, other than the flight school deal how is it not an emergency to raise first year pay? (and the rest of the scale too)

Life isn't all about the money. I'm new sitting on A CJO, but I've become fairly convinced this is where all the disgruntled allegiant guys hang out. I've gotten much more positive input from others.

j3cub 11-04-2022 12:43 PM


Originally Posted by Vettekid (Post 3526498)
Life isn't all about the money. I'm new sitting on A CJO, but I've become fairly convinced this is where all the disgruntled allegiant guys hang out. I've gotten much more positive input from others.

#truth..........

tom11011 11-04-2022 01:04 PM


Originally Posted by Vettekid (Post 3526498)
Life isn't all about the money. I'm new sitting on A CJO, but I've become fairly convinced this is where all the disgruntled allegiant guys hang out. I've gotten much more positive input from others.

What is it you are looking for at Allegiant?

Vettekid 11-04-2022 01:37 PM

Day trips. I'm not real keen on being gone from home half the month. I do realize that I will have to put in some time at the bottom
Going for Florida bases, which is also a gamble. But so is anywhere else. FYI, have an interview with Breeze next week and am invite at delta for the assessment. Allegiant is still my preference, especially if there is a raise in the near future.


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