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N1sync 11-05-2022 05:17 AM

I heard from a VERY reputable source $311 top rate in a recent (2-3mo ago) section 3 pass from the company. If that is true then we might not be so far apart.

G4er 11-05-2022 05:51 AM


Originally Posted by N1sync (Post 3526769)
I heard from a VERY reputable source $311 top rate in a recent (2-3mo ago) section 3 pass from the company. If that is true then we might not be so far apart.

Lets let the Union pass back and forth rates. Whoever is telling you this should step back from the Union. Shameful for you and them.

9easy 11-05-2022 10:16 AM

It will be interesting if we keep the 130% pay over 81 hours. From what I've seen, the only other airline doing something similar is frontier. It makes a dollar to dollar rate comparison a little difficult with other airlines.

KC135 11-05-2022 03:11 PM


Originally Posted by 9easy (Post 3526923)
It will be interesting if we keep the 130% pay over 81 hours. From what I've seen, the only other airline doing something similar is frontier. It makes a dollar to dollar rate comparison a little difficult with other airlines.

I think the majority would agree that is more of a benefit for the company than pilots since they are able to keep a lower headcount with it.

rdneckpilot 11-05-2022 03:39 PM


Originally Posted by Squeakygreaser (Post 3526753)
The Union doesn't tell us what they are asking of management in negotiations. But Capt Nate did, a few pages back, claiming he had an inside source, and as a way of demonstrating he really had inside info he told us when that happened. His claim of when it happened turned out to be exactly correct verified by our official comms from the union, where they told us that the offer they made to management was rejected and management made a counter offer, which they rejected.

But actually what Nate said, looking back at it, was they were asking significantly more than Alaska pay rates. So, maybe we really can't determine from that what management is willing to pay at this point.

I would also suspect that Capt Nate’s desire to win the internet may have burned a good source.

SladeTin 11-05-2022 03:52 PM


Originally Posted by KC135 (Post 3527060)
I think the majority would agree that is more of a benefit for the company than pilots since they are able to keep a lower headcount with it.

Absolutely. Never understood why people think that’s so great. I’ll take a higher pay rate on my first 81 hrs instead please.

madmax757 11-05-2022 06:50 PM

737 Sims
 
Just wondering if G4 will be replacing the A320 sims with 737 sims at the AFG center in Las Vegas. Didn’t really see a training thread to post this.

Captainbfv 11-05-2022 06:52 PM


Originally Posted by madmax757 (Post 3527148)
Just wondering if G4 will be replacing the A320 sims with 737 sims at the AFG center in Las Vegas. Didn’t really see a training thread to post this.

Negative. There will be SIMs in both ECT and WCT facilities.

TangoIndiaMike1 11-07-2022 07:13 AM


Originally Posted by 9easy (Post 3526923)
It will be interesting if we keep the 130% pay over 81 hours. From what I've seen, the only other airline doing something similar is frontier. It makes a dollar to dollar rate comparison a little difficult with other airlines.


It would be nice. I’m surprised the company pays it properly. From what I heard some folks just want straight pay due to the company not following the contract and any new soft pay rules will just cause a grievance.


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flydiamond 11-07-2022 07:23 AM


Originally Posted by TangoIndiaMike1 (Post 3527919)
It would be nice. I’m surprised the company pays it properly. From what I heard some folks just want straight pay due to the company not following the contract and any new soft pay rules will just cause a grievance.


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Above 81 pch pays it correctly only after it was arbitrated in the union’s favor fairly early on. They tried to exclude non flying PCH (think training as just one example). Better arbitration language for arbitration and grievances (in addition to more thorough and thoughtful contract language) is key to contract compliance, and AR has said we secured great language for that in the TA’d sections. Anyone who simply wants to throw their hands up in the air and say the company will always abuse us needs to stay better informed as to what the union has been working on.


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