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11-28-2023, 07:49 PM
#53
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Originally Posted by UgotHired1st
Is he also getting 130% over 81pch's?
If AR paid the union volunteers, like Kenny (I know how much time he puts in) the same way he makes sure to pay himself I’d actually be way more comfortable with him getting rich off all us. But for him to require others to volunteer while he always makes sure to get paid? That’s BS plain and simple.
11-28-2023, 07:56 PM
#54
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Originally Posted by captnate702
of course he gets paid. I love how the trustees talked about the thousands of hours they’ve volunteered when AR has t volunteered a single hour to this union. He bills for every last dime. He made sure to sign a LOA that ensured he got paid for every minute he worked.
If AR paid the union volunteers, like Kenny (I know how much time he puts in) the same way he makes sure to pay himself I’d actually be way more comfortable with him getting rich off all us. But for him to require others to volunteer while he always makes sure to get paid? That’s BS plain and simple.
If AR paid the union volunteers, like Kenny (I know how much time he puts in) the same way he makes sure to pay himself I’d actually be way more comfortable with him getting rich off all us. But for him to require others to volunteer while he always makes sure to get paid? That’s BS plain and simple.
11-28-2023, 08:00 PM
#55
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Originally Posted by akulahunter
Just curious, what LOA is that? The one that pays him differently than the CBA?
i have spoken to multiple stewards, committee members, volunteers who have said they don’t get paid for their time because AR wouldn’t allow them to put in for union business - meanwhile he’s taking pay for union business every day of the month and bragging about how deep our coffers are. That’s just sh*tty.
11-29-2023, 05:41 AM
#56
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Originally Posted by captnate702
I think JR has a significantly better chance of bringing this change than AR does. I can tell you that Maury is terrified that AR will lose, and the new regime will bring in experienced negotiators and run this thing like a professional union.
11-29-2023, 05:45 AM
#57
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Originally Posted by Uncle Wurmy
Why would they be worried about the group that they hand picked getting in? That website has Ford and Harrison written all over it.
11-29-2023, 07:28 AM
#58
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Originally Posted by Uncle Wurmy
Why would they be worried about the group that they hand picked getting in? That website has Ford and Harrison written all over it.
a new deal is years away with AR and no attrition. a bonus scheme that is just enough to keep pilots from jumping ship.
Management is thrilled with AR and the status quo. It has helped them reap monster profits. Why would they want to rock the boat with new leadership when management has boxed AR in? Management wants consistency and certainty, they know AR and how to play him.
11-29-2023, 07:50 AM
#59
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Originally Posted by captnate702
because Maury has played AR like a fiddle. He got AR to sign off on a bonus structure that has completely eliminated attrition. Attrition has fallen off completely.
a new deal is years away with AR and no attrition. a bonus scheme that is just enough to keep pilots from jumping ship.
Management is thrilled with AR and the status quo. It has helped them reap monster profits. Why would they want to rock the boat with new leadership when management has boxed AR in? Management wants consistency and certainty, they know AR and how to play him.
a new deal is years away with AR and no attrition. a bonus scheme that is just enough to keep pilots from jumping ship.
Management is thrilled with AR and the status quo. It has helped them reap monster profits. Why would they want to rock the boat with new leadership when management has boxed AR in? Management wants consistency and certainty, they know AR and how to play him.
11-29-2023, 08:03 AM
#60
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Originally Posted by tom11011
I don’t think most of the membership share your opinions. I guess we will find out on Election Day.
management no longer has an attrition problem and AR helped them solve it. they is also benefitting from our rock bottom retirement contribution and below average rates (merely below average with the bonus structure).
and these are locked in for the next 3-4 years while we are in mediation. these are not opinions. these are facts.
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