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Old 06-18-2025 | 08:11 PM
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Originally Posted by EarJet
So uh, any new news on any allegiant hiring? Or nothing for the remainder of the year. Also how's the contract thing going for the horrible pay, any updates
early 2026 is the earliest hiring date. As for the contract, there’s a full blown civil war brewing between IBT and the ALPA drive. We also haven’t even had elections yet and until we get Allegiant pilots who are elected to negotiate for us nothing will happen.

THEN once the union figures out its own drama we can actually start negotiating with management and that will be a monumental. I’d say contract before 2027 is optimistic.

way to go teamsters, screwing pilots one day at time. Thankfully ALPA should be on property before the end of the year.
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Old 06-19-2025 | 06:31 AM
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No new hires this year, just like I said a while back when someone told me my info was wrong. Until some form of attrition happens, there will be no classes, and even then it will take some time.

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Thankfully ALPA should be on property before the end of the year.
I’d say that’s optimistic. There simply aren’t enough pilots here that seem to care about the clown show that is the IBT.

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Old 06-19-2025 | 06:48 AM
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Originally Posted by captnate702
there’s a full blown civil war brewing between IBT and the ALPA drive.
What alpa drive?
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Old 06-19-2025 | 07:08 AM
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What alpa drive?
hahaha what is teamster tom gonna do when his beloved IBT gets voted out.

Your idolatry of the IBT and Unterseher is truly inspiring. Every evangelist in the world wishes their followers had the same devotion as teamster tom.

The snowball is coming. Pilots are tired of the drama and infighting. The teamster are so inept they can’t even hold an election.

serious question tom the teamster: why haven’t we had elections yet? GU said we’ve been at an impasse since March and yet still no bylaws to vote on? What is taking so long? Why is GU holding onto this trusteeship like his life and career depended on it?
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Old 06-19-2025 | 07:12 AM
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Originally Posted by SladeTin
No new hires this year, just like I said a while back when someone told me my info was wrong. Until some form of attrition happens, there will be no classes, and even then it will take some time.


I’d say that’s optimistic. There simply aren’t enough pilots here that seem to care about the clown show that is the IBT.
You were the first I recall saying that on here so kudos to your inside info and reading the tea leaves. I was also skeptical but now I’d be pleasantly surprised if we hired in Q1 2026.
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Old 06-19-2025 | 01:47 PM
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Originally Posted by captnate702
hahaha what is teamster tom gonna do when his beloved IBT gets voted out.
Easy, I'll support that Union no different then I support this one or the one before.
But there's no alpa drive, if there was we would get to know who the organizers are and be able to ask them questions. All that discussion is locked into a very small circle on the local chat.
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Old 06-19-2025 | 01:57 PM
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Originally Posted by tom11011
Easy, I'll support that Union no different then I support this one or the one before.
But there's no alpa drive, if there was we would get to know who the organizers are and be able to ask them questions. All that discussion is locked into a very small circle on the local chat.
You’re plugged in with Unterseher, why haven’t we had elections yet? Also don’t you agree that the lack of elections is hurting negotiations? Management knows that until we have elections the people at the table are just pawns.

what is so infuriating about Unterseher and ibt is that they demand unity but are preventing us from having true unity in negotiations by NOT having any elected ppl representing us (I guess RJ is technically still elected so it’s just him).
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Old 06-19-2025 | 02:53 PM
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Originally Posted by captnate702
You’re plugged in with Unterseher, why haven’t we had elections yet? Also don’t you agree that the lack of elections is hurting negotiations? Management knows that until we have elections the people at the table are just pawns.

what is so infuriating about Unterseher and ibt is that they demand unity but are preventing us from having true unity in negotiations by NOT having any elected ppl representing us (I guess RJ is technically still elected so it’s just him).
I don't have any clue what you are talking about. The elections come after the bylaws. How do you not know this?
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Old 06-19-2025 | 03:05 PM
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Originally Posted by tom11011
I don't have any clue what you are talking about. The elections come after the bylaws. How do you not know this?
of course I know this and who controls the bylaws? The tooth fairy?
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Old 06-19-2025 | 03:20 PM
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Originally Posted by tom11011
Easy, I'll support that Union no different then I support this one or the one before.
But there's no alpa drive, if there was we would get to know who the organizers are and be able to ask them questions. All that discussion is locked into a very small circle on the local chat.
Oh Tommy boy still in denial here. It’s a matter of WHEN ALPA gets here not if
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