Allegiant Air
09-26-2014 | 11:34 AM
#791
Bracing for Fallacies
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From: In favor of good things, not in favor of bad things
Allegiant appears to have evolved into the perfect marriage of the two old axioms:
(Large)small jet syndrome
There's a sucker born every minute.
No matter how many post in the know about the conditions, like cockroaches, pilots keep coming up from the swirling drain of the regionals looking for a way (anyway) into a larger jet.
Mgmt will not negotiate as long as they see a steady supply of starry eyed recruits willing to replace those disgruntled 6months plus senior pilots.
I believe it was Gordon that years ago wrote a book after leaving Continental saying he could easily make money in an airline if he was allowed to fire/recycle all the employees after 5 yrs of longevity.
Allegiant is just demonstrating that concept.
(Large)small jet syndrome
There's a sucker born every minute.
No matter how many post in the know about the conditions, like cockroaches, pilots keep coming up from the swirling drain of the regionals looking for a way (anyway) into a larger jet.
Mgmt will not negotiate as long as they see a steady supply of starry eyed recruits willing to replace those disgruntled 6months plus senior pilots.
I believe it was Gordon that years ago wrote a book after leaving Continental saying he could easily make money in an airline if he was allowed to fire/recycle all the employees after 5 yrs of longevity.
Allegiant is just demonstrating that concept.
Regards,
09-26-2014 | 01:01 PM
#792
Gets Weekends Off
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Coming here for a particular base is dicey. And then there are rumors of cvg opening. G4 opens and closes bases at lightning speed. The second a base doesn’t show an outstanding profit margin, its reduced and/or closed. Displacing crews at will is the norm. This company will give no assistance, no time off to pick up your entire life and move across the country. It’s reminiscent of part 91 corporate positions, here today, gone tomorrow.
09-26-2014 | 04:37 PM
#793
Line Holder
Joined: Oct 2011
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From: 744 Right Seat
Allegiant is no place for anybody. 4 or 5 years ago it was great....now it is terrible. Even if you live in base, by the time you're done with your 6 on 1 off, 5 on 1 off, 4 on 2 off schedule, you'll be so tired you won't be able to enjoy your home. These schedules happen monthly due to horrible work rules and management refusing to negotiate. Senior people are leaving as soon as the phone rings...junior people are still drinking Kool-Aide, but as soon as that wears off they'll be gone. Hope this helps![/QUOTE]
Can you post one of your recent monthly schedules just so we can see how it looks? Just trying to get a comparison on my lousy schedule that I fly now. Thanks.
Can you post one of your recent monthly schedules just so we can see how it looks? Just trying to get a comparison on my lousy schedule that I fly now. Thanks.
09-26-2014 | 06:49 PM
#795
Gets Weekends Off
Joined: Mar 2005
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From: Off to the left!
It's mostly single days off. Last month, I never got two days off in a row. This month, it's mostly single days off, with a couple groups of two days off.
09-26-2014 | 06:50 PM
#796
2 days off
Joined: Jun 2009
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From: Embraer Systems Analyst
Allegiant is no place for anybody. 4 or 5 years ago it was great....now it is terrible. Even if you live in base, by the time you're done with your 6 on 1 off, 5 on 1 off, 4 on 2 off schedule, you'll be so tired you won't be able to enjoy your home. These schedules happen monthly due to horrible work rules and management refusing to negotiate. Senior people are leaving as soon as the phone rings...junior people are still drinking Kool-Aide, but as soon as that wears off they'll be gone. Hope this helps!
Yea whys it worse now? Less days off?
09-26-2014 | 08:32 PM
#797
Line Holder
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From: 744 Right Seat
I'm not sure, what you said seems like it would unsustainable for it to rotate like that for an entire month but I could be very wrong! Just trying to get an idea of the difference. I'm at ASA/XJT now, we are moving backwards, I've got to do something.
09-26-2014 | 08:34 PM
#798
Swimmin' in da pool
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09-26-2014 | 09:01 PM
#799
Gets Weekends Off
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From: Just ran out of Kool-Aid...
09-26-2014 | 09:21 PM
#800
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Joined: Nov 2011
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From: Volleyball Player
Sounds legit.
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