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Old 10-20-2014 | 07:01 PM
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Originally Posted by GlobeTreker
It would seem to me it would be cheaper to come to some sort of agreement with the pilot group. Training costs for new hires is not cheap. A constant turnover of pilots and flight cancellations has to cost more than paying an industry standard wage.
It’s not about the money. The CEO has an ultra strong hatred for anything union. He’s already made his millions, if he could, he would trash the company tomorrow just to spite the fact we dared his authority.
Old 10-20-2014 | 07:06 PM
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It’s not about the money. The CEO has an ultra strong hatred for anything union. He’s already made his millions, if he could, he would trash the company tomorrow just to spite the fact we dared his authority.
I appreciate your perspective however I can't imagine investors letting that happen. Why would you kill a cash cow just to prove a point? I doubt the CEO has the power to do such a thing.

I am still curious. Exactly how many days off a month do you guys get anyway? Do they have you flying maximum hours year round and how many legs do you guys do in a day?
Old 10-20-2014 | 07:08 PM
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Originally Posted by GlobeTreker
It would seem to me it would be cheaper to come to some sort of agreement with the pilot group. Training costs for new hires is not cheap. A constant turnover of pilots and flight cancellations has to cost more than paying an industry standard wage.

Exactly how many days off a month do you guys get anyway? Do they have you flying maximum hours year round? I'm also curious how many legs you guys do in a day?
Well see, with your reasoning about outsourcing, you don't have the "big picture." ...cough, cough(mgt response) As for your other questions(me personally)
-11-19 days off. 17 for November, 75 hours
-with the increase in hiring, I doubt max hours except for maybe junior CAs.. Just a guess
-2 legs, probably 10% = 4 legs but I don't bid them; work too hard running the QRH for 4 legs.. just kidding, sometimes.
Old 10-20-2014 | 07:10 PM
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Originally Posted by GlobeTreker
I appreciate your perspective however I can't imagine investors letting that happen. Why would you kill a cash cow just to prove a point? I doubt the CEO has the power to do such a thing.
You’re correct. That’s the only reason why he hasn’t. And, in the end that will be why we procure a contract.
Old 10-20-2014 | 07:25 PM
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You’re correct. That’s the only reason why he hasn’t. And, in the end that will be why we procure a contract.
^^^^^^^^ +1
Old 10-20-2014 | 08:51 PM
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Originally Posted by GlobeTreker
A constant turnover of pilots and flight cancellations has to cost more than paying an industry standard wage.
Unless your goal is to drive DOWN the "industry standard."

Originally Posted by Xbone
...he would trash the company tomorrow just to spite the fact we dared his authority.
Because he can just move on to the next airline.

Originally Posted by GlobeTreker
I appreciate your perspective however I can't imagine investors letting that happen. Why would you kill a cash cow just to prove a point? I doubt the CEO has the power to do such a thing.
You think he's doing any of this WITHOUT the approval of the Board and the investors? They'll rake the profits until the the last day. And when Allegiant has been cast on the ash heap of airline history, they'll move on to the next.
Old 10-21-2014 | 03:04 AM
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Originally Posted by GlobeTreker
I am still curious. Exactly how many days off a month do you guys get anyway? Do they have you flying maximum hours year round and how many legs do you guys do in a day?
Minimum days off on reserve is 10, reducible to 8. Minimum days off not on reserve is 11. Hours vary by month, base, and equipment. Typically, the hours range from 70-105, depending on staffing and the month.

In my base, the average hours for captains for November is 92, and for first officers is 100. I would expect December to be higher than that.
Old 10-21-2014 | 04:44 AM
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Originally Posted by BlueHenFR8Dawg
Well see, with your reasoning about outsourcing, you don't have the "big picture." ...cough, cough(mgt response) As for your other questions(me personally)
-11-19 days off. 17 for November, 75 hours
-with the increase in hiring, I doubt max hours except for maybe junior CAs.. Just a guess
-2 legs, probably 10% = 4 legs but I don't bid them; work too hard running the QRH for 4 legs.. just kidding, sometimes.
Holy crap, how did you get 17 days off?

I am a junior line holder and for next month I got a line worth 70 hours. They filled in reserve assignments between trips until they reduced me to the minimum of 11 days off. I have a three day stretch, otherwise single days off. The worst though is I have morning flights until my last day then I have a late flight that gets in around 11pm. Then a 0600 show two days later, just to make a commute impossible.

There are guys like BlueHenFR8 that get 17 days off, that get the days they want, and get the trips they want. I don't know how. Maybe real senior. Maybe they found the secret to Merlot. That is the worst part, you get a horrible line of scraps where they put reserve in to make you min days off, then tell you that it is your fault for not understanding Merlot.
Old 10-21-2014 | 05:36 AM
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I think I do have the secret to Merlot.

Never bid days off.

Bid all trips only. I can't stress this enough. After they award you those trips you are up to the required amount of flying for the month. Choose trips on days you want to work and make the days off the last choices.

You have to realize that what days you want off doesn't matter at all to the person reading your excel spreadsheet and selecting your trips. However, if you put in all flying trips instead they must choose those first.

I won't say my schedules have been perfect since I tried this but I will say they have gotten much better.
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