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Old 03-31-2014 | 12:16 PM
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Originally Posted by SilkBra
How do you know it will go to band 2 in May?

How do you know that the company is making people share accommodations with different sexual orientations?

I know we need to make this place look as bad as we can to perspective applicants to enhance the position of the union, but lets try and keep it factual…...
Whether or not the company does, is irrelevant. The mere suggestion that our pay is tied to such a thing, is abhorrent. The next time your plumber hands you a bill, try telling him/her; “Ya, ya know am afraid we do things different here, I haven’t quite had the year I had hoped for”.

He probably has no idea what his or her potential roommate’s sexual orientation is. Nor should he. That’s the whole point. Were older/established adults with private lives. Shared accommodations at this point in life is inappropriate. Many of us were in the military in our 20s, and/ or teenagers in camp. We’ve been there, we’ve done that. Some people have families they need to have close to them, while were incessantly tdy’d, or who knows what they need. Throw in schedules that are absolutely un-commutable, and all you hear from the “Good Senator” is; “Sorry, deal with it”.

Now there may be some hyperbole here and there. But, for the most part the complaints are valid. If I were a potential new hire and I was doing my due diligence. I would think; “ Hmm, where there’s smoke…”
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Old 03-31-2014 | 04:05 PM
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Originally Posted by CLMP
Just wait until we drop to Band 2 pay in May. They will have a full-fledged mutiny on their hands.
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Ah, the band-system. I wish I could have told my dentist that I wasn’t having as profitable a year as I had hoped for.
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Whether or not the company does, is irrelevant. The mere suggestion that our pay is tied to such a thing, is abhorrent.
These are exactly the reasons why I could never figure out why people intelligent enough to be Part 121 airline pilots would ever accept this kind of pay plan.

Just goes to show you that pilots will do or accept ANYTHING to move up the airline pilot pyramid.
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Old 03-31-2014 | 04:13 PM
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Originally Posted by tailendcharlie
Just curious..... is there any other airline out there, including regionals, who have shared accomodations on overnights?

WestAir (dba United Express) did back in the late 80s. Guess where the management of Allegiant are all from?

I remember apartments in Santa Barbara and Crescent City, can't think where else. Had Yugos to get us from the airport to the apartment. Those were fun to drive


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Old 03-31-2014 | 04:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Packrat
These are exactly the reasons why I could never figure out why people intelligent enough to be Part 121 airline pilots would ever accept this kind of pay plan.

Just goes to show you that pilots will do or accept ANYTHING to move up the airline pilot pyramid.

This pay system was a hobson’s choice, dictated to the pilot group. Saying g4 pilots agreed to this garbage, is like saying the Hanoi Hilton residents agreed to make statements.
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Old 03-31-2014 | 05:16 PM
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Originally Posted by SilkBra
How do you know it will go to band 2 in May?

How do you know that the company is making people share accommodations with different sexual orientations?

I know we need to make this place look as bad as we can to perspective applicants to enhance the position of the union, but lets try and keep it factual…...
If you proclaim yourself as a gay male, do you get to share rooms with a hot female FA? That may take away from some of the band 2 pay cuts.....
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Old 03-31-2014 | 06:39 PM
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The whole thing sounds like a lawsuit waiting to happen
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Old 03-31-2014 | 06:44 PM
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Originally Posted by full of luv
If you proclaim yourself as a gay male, do you get to share rooms with a hot female FA? That may take away from some of the band 2 pay cuts.....
In California they passed a law that "gender identity" allows you to go to the opposite sex bathrooms now with no consequence. What has this world turned into? I would not put my kids thru that school system...

New Law Allows Transgender Students To Choose Bathrooms And Sports Teams : NPR
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Old 03-31-2014 | 07:02 PM
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Originally Posted by SilkBra
How do you know it will go to band 2 in May?

How do you know that the company is making people share accommodations with different sexual orientations?

I know we need to make this place look as bad as we can to perspective applicants to enhance the position of the union, but lets try and keep it factual…...

I'd say there's about an 85% chance of Band 2. How do I know? Because I can do math. The 1st quarter of 2013 is going to drop out of the equation and we will have to kick some serious tail in this quarter to make it. I don't see it happening, but I would love to be proven wrong.

Did you even read the email? It states that you will be placed with people of like job description (pilot with pilot, FA with FA) and like gender. It mentions nothing about sexual orientation and it shouldn't because it is none of the company's (or anyone else's) business. I don't know how many gay pilots we have and frankly, I don't care. Why? Because as adults our private lives are are nobody's business. But when you share living quarters with someone, it becomes your business whether you like it or not. This is a $2 billion company and they run it like a summer flying camp.
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Old 03-31-2014 | 07:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Packrat
These are exactly the reasons why I could never figure out why people intelligent enough to be Part 121 airline pilots would ever accept this kind of pay plan.

Just goes to show you that pilots will do or accept ANYTHING to move up the airline pilot pyramid.
Not even going to make excuses. We screwed up. It was like signing a post-nup during the honeymoon. Profits were high and the idea of a pay drop was a distant thought. It was a 25% raise from what we had. But then they ended up funding a huge engine rehab program with operational funds that caused us all to take a pay hit. That's when I realized that we made a huge mistake. The company tried to give the FA's the same system and they told management to shove it. Everything we gained from that negotiation session was given back, and then some.
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Old 03-31-2014 | 07:25 PM
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Originally Posted by CLMP
Not even going to make excuses. We screwed up. It was like signing a post-nup during the honeymoon. Profits were high and the idea of a pay drop was a distant thought. It was a 25% raise from what we had. But then they ended up funding a huge engine rehab program with operational funds that caused us all to take a pay hit. That's when I realized that we made a huge mistake. The company tried to give the FA's the same system and they told management to shove it. Everything we gained from that negotiation session was given back, and then some.
You’re being hard on yourself. You dealt from a position of weakness, and disrespect. In any negotiation, whether you’re buying a car, or a house. If you aren’t respected. Someone is probably taking advantage of you.
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