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#2321
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#2322
How long is the seat lock for a new hire? Do many folks bid off their initial assigned aircraft ASAP to get into something else? With the big difference in 2d year pay for 190 does that cause a lot of movement in that fleet? I know that is the case at Jet Blue just curious how it is played at AA. Thanks.
#2323
How long is the seat lock for a new hire? Do many folks bid off their initial assigned aircraft ASAP to get into something else? With the big difference in 2d year pay for 190 does that cause a lot of movement in that fleet? I know that is the case at Jet Blue just curious how it is played at AA. Thanks.
Movement was great and should continue on 190 and 73 in lax and lga. think most folks off rsv after 2 or 3 months. Your 2nd lock is for 24 months unless you take your 1st upgrade. in that case you can go after 6 months.
#2324
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I read a few pages back there are forced upgrades to the -190. How does that work? I just passed the video interview and am relatively young ~30, and am just starting to think about my bidding strategy should I be offered a class date.
#2325
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Anyone like to shed some light on this...
I keep hearing as a New Hire FO the E190 in PHL is the plane that gives you the fastest seniority gain allowing you to get a relatively decent schedule (soon after training) much sooner than other Equipments with Weekends & Holidays OFF compared to having to be stuck on Reserve (on-call) on the 737/Airbus.
Any truth to this??
For us New Hires that have to commute wanting a set flying schedule & NOT sit in a crashpad on a Reserve (on-call) Schedule would it be more ideal to do the E190 in PHL or 737/Airbus?
Assume if on Reserve (on-call) on the 737/Airbus in New York (LGA) are we responsible to transporting ourself to cover trips flying out of all 3-Airports (LGA/EWR/JFK) ?
Isn't that a pain in the neck with the constant New York traffic congestion, rush hour and not to mention the out-of-pocket cost for the numerous Taxi/Uber expenses ?
Thanks in advance
I keep hearing as a New Hire FO the E190 in PHL is the plane that gives you the fastest seniority gain allowing you to get a relatively decent schedule (soon after training) much sooner than other Equipments with Weekends & Holidays OFF compared to having to be stuck on Reserve (on-call) on the 737/Airbus.
Any truth to this??
For us New Hires that have to commute wanting a set flying schedule & NOT sit in a crashpad on a Reserve (on-call) Schedule would it be more ideal to do the E190 in PHL or 737/Airbus?
Assume if on Reserve (on-call) on the 737/Airbus in New York (LGA) are we responsible to transporting ourself to cover trips flying out of all 3-Airports (LGA/EWR/JFK) ?
Isn't that a pain in the neck with the constant New York traffic congestion, rush hour and not to mention the out-of-pocket cost for the numerous Taxi/Uber expenses ?
Thanks in advance
#2326
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Anyone like to shed some light on this...
I keep hearing as a New Hire FO the E190 in PHL is the plane that gives you the fastest seniority gain allowing you to get a relatively decent schedule (soon after training) much sooner than other Equipments with Weekends & Holidays OFF compared to having to be stuck on Reserve (on-call) on the 737/Airbus.
Any truth to this??
For us New Hires that have to commute wanting a set flying schedule & NOT sit in a crashpad on a Reserve (on-call) Schedule would it be more ideal to do the E190 in PHL or 737/Airbus?
Assume if on Reserve (on-call) on the 737/Airbus in New York (LGA) are we responsible to transporting ourself to cover trips flying out of all 3-Airports (LGA/EWR/JFK) ?
Isn't that a pain in the neck with the constant New York traffic congestion, rush hour and not to mention the out-of-pocket cost for the numerous Taxi/Uber expenses ?
Thanks in advance
I keep hearing as a New Hire FO the E190 in PHL is the plane that gives you the fastest seniority gain allowing you to get a relatively decent schedule (soon after training) much sooner than other Equipments with Weekends & Holidays OFF compared to having to be stuck on Reserve (on-call) on the 737/Airbus.
Any truth to this??
For us New Hires that have to commute wanting a set flying schedule & NOT sit in a crashpad on a Reserve (on-call) Schedule would it be more ideal to do the E190 in PHL or 737/Airbus?
Assume if on Reserve (on-call) on the 737/Airbus in New York (LGA) are we responsible to transporting ourself to cover trips flying out of all 3-Airports (LGA/EWR/JFK) ?
Isn't that a pain in the neck with the constant New York traffic congestion, rush hour and not to mention the out-of-pocket cost for the numerous Taxi/Uber expenses ?
Thanks in advance
But yes, you're absolutely right. Covering 3 airports is definitely undesirable compared to covering a single airport in PHL.
#2327
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The 737/320 in LGA offers quick movement and short reserve time as well. The most junior lineholder on the 737 in LGA has the same seniority as the most junior lineholder on the 190. The 320 in LGA is slightly more senior, but not by much. It's still a short time on reserve.
But yes, you're absolutely right. Covering 3 airports is definitely undesirable compared to covering a single airport in PHL.
But yes, you're absolutely right. Covering 3 airports is definitely undesirable compared to covering a single airport in PHL.
#2328
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12 month upgrade ain’t too shabby either. Still pays more than right seat of the 73/bus for a few years. And the amount of money to be made for 30 minute flights is silly. This month I grabbed 25 hours for 3 flights less than 35 minutes. 98 hours 8 nights away from home.(That’s low, 126 credit was highest I saw w 5 fos over a c-note) As long as you don’t mind ground hog day at work shuttle flying. My crystal ball says AA gets more 100 seat aircraft. There was a reason they flew the Dash8s for so long. they just pump out money at a very low operating cost.
Is it easier to get more nights at home on the E190 ?
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#2330
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I am not sure it’s true but a rumor was that our highest paid pilot was a 190 Captain. Not sure if that is possible unless it is a Check Airman getting 777 Captain pay.
I think most that bid off get withheld which allows them to get the higher pay. Many opportunities for overtime while at the higher rate.
I think most that bid off get withheld which allows them to get the higher pay. Many opportunities for overtime while at the higher rate.
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