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Old 03-22-2018, 08:57 PM
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Originally Posted by TQ Nola View Post
Seeing newhires get LAX and DFW right out of the chute still gobsmacks me.
S80 out of DFW has always been a valid preference bid. If someone really wanted to be based out DFW and wasn’t picky about the flavor of airplane, then he could already be there. The company took junior line pilots out of other bases before giving it to new hires.

It’s all about trade offs. Are you willing to fly old airplanes to get the domicile you want? Or must you fly the newest jet and accept the commute?
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Old 03-23-2018, 08:25 AM
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S80 out of DFW has always been a valid preference bid. If someone really wanted to be based out DFW and wasn’t picky about the flavor of airplane, then he could already be there. The company took junior line pilots out of other bases before giving it to new hires.

It’s all about trade offs. Are you willing to fly old airplanes to get the domicile you want? Or must you fly the newest jet and accept the commute?
I'd pick the S80 just because I think it would be fun to fly an older aircraft. Would this be a mistake?
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Old 03-23-2018, 08:53 AM
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Originally Posted by FlyingHercs View Post
First year pay of ~$86k is too little to live in (near) the LAX area for a year until jumping to ~$130k+? Perhaps the new hire who CAN'T do that is the one not in their right mind.

Not doubting that LA, and California in general, is more expensive than the US average but a little bit of fiscal responsibility and budgeting goes a long way. Lots of people would kill to have a job that makes $86k.

But hey, if you want to up that first year pay in the next contract cycle I surely won't complain. I'd even offer to take that LAX slot off your hands.
At $86,000/year salary, a family of four will quite likely be dipping into savings to live. $86,000 means take home of $60,000 best case, so $5,000/month. Rent would eat up $3500/month, minimum for a house, leaving only $1500 for everything else for the whole month.
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Old 03-23-2018, 03:13 PM
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Originally Posted by ItnStln View Post
I'd pick the S80 just because I think it would be fun to fly an older aircraft. Would this be a mistake?
Not at all. The -80 remains the most fun airplane I’ve flown in my entire career. I liked it even more than the 75/76. Old school baby!
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Old 03-23-2018, 04:17 PM
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Will the super duper 80 likes increase in dfw now that St. Louis is closing? Obviously it will continue to shrink as they park them...
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Old 03-24-2018, 02:37 AM
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Originally Posted by Saabs View Post
Will the super duper 80 likes increase in dfw now that St. Louis is closing? Obviously it will continue to shrink as they park them...
The pilots and aircraft are all being displaced. The planes will go to DFW. The pilots will go to whatever location is on their displacement bid. Some will chose DFW to stay on the S80. Others will chose other bases and aircraft for an easier commute and/or better pay (or pay protection).

I would guess that the STL closure will cause at least a slight increase in the need for DFW S80 Pilots.
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Old 03-24-2018, 03:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Clint View Post
The pilots and aircraft are all being displaced. The planes will go to DFW. The pilots will go to whatever location is on their displacement bid. Some will chose DFW to stay on the S80. Others will chose other bases and aircraft for an easier commute and/or better pay (or pay protection).

I would guess that the STL closure will cause at least a slight increase in the need for DFW S80 Pilots.
I don't think all the planes are going to DFW most are headed for the desert in September of this year then the rest in September of 2019.
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Old 03-24-2018, 05:19 AM
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Anyone know the ages of the last class?
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Old 03-24-2018, 05:22 AM
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Originally Posted by ItnStln View Post
I'd pick the S80 just because I think it would be fun to fly an older aircraft. Would this be a mistake?
If you live in DFW it’s a no brainer.

If you’re going to commute anyway it’s not a bad option. You’ll be locked into another school in a year or so but that will have no lock-in if you displace.

If you live in an AA base it’s not worth commuting to junior rsv in DFW just to fly the S80.

The best thing it has going for it is a quiet and comfort cockpit once you’re sitting down.

If you want to fly a 1960’s design with a basic autopilot, non FMC, aircraft the S80 will be your last chance.
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Old 03-24-2018, 07:00 AM
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Originally Posted by aa73 View Post
Not at all. The -80 remains the most fun airplane I’ve flown in my entire career. I liked it even more than the 75/76. Old school baby!
Thanks! From a few YouTube videos I've seen about the -80, it does sound fun.
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