Contract 2020
#42
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Maybe you should let me decide what I want to do with the premium the company pays? If you want to spend the money on it go nuts, but don't force me to take a hit somewhere else in the contract for an optional thing that doesn't effect my QWL.
#43
While it’d be nice to have an option to buy it through the company at reduced rates, nameuser makes a good point. Term life insurance is mainly for people with dependents. A single person with no kids doesn’t need it, and would pay for it under your scenario.
#44
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Yep and I do, but I personally want to give as much as I can to my family should something happen to me. I can’t actually believe you would not want as much coverage as you can get. And as the above noted “EVERYONE” has something far better then us. Why in the world would you NOT want it if they will give it. A group policy as large as ours cost the company literally nothing and it’s a write off for them as well. Unreal you actually are for not getting something that is an actual benefit to your family. The company shows how much they actually care about families when they give benefits. As far as I’ve seen, AA doesn’t care about families. Benefits are garbage and that reflects what they think of you and yours. Truly insulting
#45
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Yep and I do, but I personally want to give as much as I can to my family should something happen to me. I can’t actually believe you would not want as much coverage as you can get. And as the above noted “EVERYONE” has something far better then us. Why in the world would you NOT want it if they will give it. A group policy as large as ours cost the company literally nothing and it’s a write off for them as well. Unreal you actually are for not getting something that is an actual benefit to your family. The company shows how much they actually care about families when they give benefits. As far as I’ve seen, AA doesn’t care about families. Benefits are garbage and that reflects what they think of you and yours. Truly insulting
“AA doesn’t care about families”. It’s a for-profit business not a charitable organization.
We get what we negotiate. Idk why everyone takes everything so personally.
#46
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Name the number of single pilots that work here. Bet you it’s not over 5%. Here’s a better way to put it. Name how many pilots at AA don’t have beneficiaries. You know your brother/sisters, niece/nephew, can be one. So tell me how many AA pilots have literally zero people that could be a beneficiary, and tell you how many of them need project wingman
#47
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Contract 2020
We’re not debating what we should or shouldn’t have in the upcoming contract, only pointing to what we could have. If you feel that strongly about not wanting life insurance share it with your NC and reps.
This forum is for education... drinks makes a good point that could change someone’s perspective towards valuing a better life insurance plan (even for a single person).
You can list anyone or even an entity as a beneficiary. (Leave it to your favorite dog if you want.)
#48
I understand not wanting to “pay” for something you don’t want - or feel you may never use. In our list, it’s “up to...” because it’s the member’s choice if s/he wants to pay into anything above a base plan.
Same should go with medical. I would ask everyone on this board to go look at other medical plans - especially FedEx. Ours PALES by comparison. We should definitely have different tiers - my needs are probably different from others...
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Same should go with medical. I would ask everyone on this board to go look at other medical plans - especially FedEx. Ours PALES by comparison. We should definitely have different tiers - my needs are probably different from others...
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#49
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I understand not wanting to “pay” for something you don’t want - or feel you may never use. In our list, it’s “up to...” because it’s the member’s choice if s/he wants to pay into anything above a base plan.
Same should go with medical. I would ask everyone on this board to go look at other medical plans - especially FedEx. Ours PALES by comparison. We should definitely have different tiers - my needs are probably different from others...
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Same should go with medical. I would ask everyone on this board to go look at other medical plans - especially FedEx. Ours PALES by comparison. We should definitely have different tiers - my needs are probably different from others...
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Then I could choose pay or benefits independent of union conflict.
Each employee negotiates his own Project Ivan.
#50
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Joined APC: Mar 2014
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Yep and I do, but I personally want to give as much as I can to my family should something happen to me. I can’t actually believe you would not want as much coverage as you can get. And as the above noted “EVERYONE” has something far better then us. Why in the world would you NOT want it if they will give it. A group policy as large as ours cost the company literally nothing and it’s a write off for them as well. Unreal you actually are for not getting something that is an actual benefit to your family. The company shows how much they actually care about families when they give benefits. As far as I’ve seen, AA doesn’t care about families. Benefits are garbage and that reflects what they think of you and yours. Truly insulting
Hey guess what, salaries are also a "write off" for the company. As are charitable donations for you. Why not just donate all of your salary, because you know, it's a "write off".
Let me decide what benefits my family, not you. It's like the guy suggesting commuters get free flights and free hotels on that contract thread. No, FU. That has a big cost and doesn't benefit anyone who chose to make the sacrifice and move to base (I commute BTW).
Pay, work rules, hotel language, medical benefits etc benefit everyone. (although I would like to see a credit for those who choose to not take a medical plan, my wife's ex employer gave her $250/month to not take any and we put her on mine at AA)
AA cares for my family by giving me a solid pay check and job security. Beyond that what else do you want them to do? Maybe they can send a rep over to change your kids diapers to show "they care".
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