Contract 2020
#51
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I was under the impression it was an option? Maybe thru APA? I can't remember. But yes I would totally support that, just like additional benefits like the legal plans. A one stop shop for us. With over 100k employees I'm guessing the CO could negotiate good rates.
#52
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Let me decide what benefits my family, not you. It's like the guy suggesting commuters get free flights and free hotels on that contract thread. No, FU. That has a big cost and doesn't benefit anyone who chose to make the sacrifice and move to base (I commute BTW).
Pay, work rules, hotel language, medical benefits etc benefit everyone. (although I would like to see a credit for those who choose to not take a medical plan, my wife's ex employer gave her $250/month to not take any and we put her on mine at AA)
Pay, work rules, hotel language, medical benefits etc benefit everyone. (although I would like to see a credit for those who choose to not take a medical plan, my wife's ex employer gave her $250/month to not take any and we put her on mine at AA)
IMHO, I don't think we should ONLY try for improvements that benefit 95-100% of the pilot group. Sometimes 50% is enough of justification to support a contract improvement. If we only tried for things that benefits that ultra high percentage of pilots, we would still be lacking in so many areas.
I also want better medical plans, but many people tell me that I should not want to fight for that b.c. such a large % of our pilots have other (non- AA) medical plans they use; that it would be a waste of negotiating capital. I just don't agree with that logic. Especially when our plans don't stack up well with our competitors plans.
#53
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I also want better medical plans, but many people tell me that I should not want to fight for that b.c. such a large % of our pilots have other (non- AA) medical plans they use; that it would be a waste of negotiating capital. I just don't agree with that logic. Especially when our plans don't stack up well with our competitors plans.
If we had a FedEx medical everyone who has their own plans would be bailing for the company plan.
#54
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Commuting benefits (hotels a3 passes etc ) allow you to bid better paying $$$ equipment wherever your seniority can hold without taking a qol hit. If pilots at aa don’t see the positive in that until after delta and United have it then this is going to be a AAwefully disappointing contract for all.
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#56
Look at Delta’s Pilot profit sharing. Vastly superior to every other employee group. Our profit sharing is the same as every other employee group and there in lies the problem...we shouldn’t give in to the “me too” mindset.
#57
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How about AA?
#58
In 2016 they put them on a different plan in exchange for a pay raise, then handed the old program back free of charge effective Q4 2017.
The big difference in our plan is we get the 16% 401k contribution to go along with the payout, just as though it was regular pay. I do not believe any other group (DAL or otherwise) gets this.
#59
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we shouldn't give in to the me-too mindset
We don't, so much.
AA does, and that is both the problem and the reality.
NTL... I am really excited to have free positive space travel and free hotel rooms for my travels... Bring it on.
We don't, so much.
AA does, and that is both the problem and the reality.
NTL... I am really excited to have free positive space travel and free hotel rooms for my travels... Bring it on.
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