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08-12-2018 | 07:35 AM
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08-12-2018 | 08:00 AM
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The math, from Cheddar’s numbers, above -
Using DAL 16.68 pilots per plane and AA 951 planes:
16.68 x 951 = 15,863 Pilots needed.
14,599 pilots today
15,863 - 14,599 = 1,264 Pilots needed to hire
in addition to increasing retirements/early outs/growth.
Hiring plans for this year are 900 (or 930). Mandatory retirement is 528. Doesn’t sound like much of this year’s hires is to improve, mostly hold the current pilots/plane.
Mandatory retirement ramps up to 957 in just a few years. And the Schoolhouse is maxed out today. Sounds like a big expansion is needed.
As the Chinese expression goes, ‘May you live in interesting times.’ And for the first time in decades, pilots are going to be in the driver’s seat (no pun intended).
Using DAL 16.68 pilots per plane and AA 951 planes:
16.68 x 951 = 15,863 Pilots needed.
14,599 pilots today
15,863 - 14,599 = 1,264 Pilots needed to hire
in addition to increasing retirements/early outs/growth.
Hiring plans for this year are 900 (or 930). Mandatory retirement is 528. Doesn’t sound like much of this year’s hires is to improve, mostly hold the current pilots/plane.
Mandatory retirement ramps up to 957 in just a few years. And the Schoolhouse is maxed out today. Sounds like a big expansion is needed.
As the Chinese expression goes, ‘May you live in interesting times.’ And for the first time in decades, pilots are going to be in the driver’s seat (no pun intended).
Yeah, I think the airline is just starting to see how far in the hole we are.
As for the numbers, they are straight from the newest (8/18) APA contract comparison. I just did a bit of English major/iPhone math for the ratios!!!
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08-12-2018 | 04:36 PM
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08-12-2018 | 04:39 PM
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You say that but last week in class one of the VP’s came in and said that hiring is now projected at 750 for the year. Hopefully they can find a way to get up to the 900-930 that they had been saying.
08-12-2018 | 05:54 PM
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Of course, I earlier heard hiring would be limited to 500. That would be less than current already starting in classes (529+/-) and less than the mandatory retirement number (528). So I have safely disregarded that forecast.
08-12-2018 | 06:10 PM
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If hiring is projected to be 750, the rest of the classes would need to average 24, the lowest of any class all year. If that is the case, the first class in August resuming 40 in the class does not make sense.
Of course, I earlier heard hiring would be limited to 500. That would be less than current already starting in classes (529+/-) and less than the mandatory retirement number (528). So I have safely disregarded that forecast.
Of course, I earlier heard hiring would be limited to 500. That would be less than current already starting in classes (529+/-) and less than the mandatory retirement number (528). So I have safely disregarded that forecast.
08-12-2018 | 06:29 PM
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December vacancy awards
I also think that’s about 300 over this years retirements. That’s hiring for 3% growth, so I’d say we are trying to catch up but can’t due to training issues. We’re going to have issues when 900/year are leaving.
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08-12-2018 | 06:58 PM
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If only somebody could have seen this coming.
08-12-2018 | 08:31 PM
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Well, we have top men working on this...
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