American vs. Southwest
10-08-2018, 05:35 PM
#21
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Originally Posted by Sliceback
And the 737 is the worst aircraft at AA(ignoring the 190 and S80 which are small fleets and dying). The 737 is ok but every other airplane we have is better.
For me, the MD80 was hands down the most fun aircraft I’ve flown as an airline pilot. Way more fun than even the 75/76. It’s the old school cockpit plus the crazy amount of hands on pilot stuff that I really enjoyed. Setting off car alarms every takeoff was an added plus!
The 737 is right up there with the old school stuff. Not as much fun as the 80 but not far behind. I get a kick out of the fact that I’m still connecting generators the way my fellow pilots did back in the 60s. Awesome stuff!
The 75/76 was pretty fun but the type of flying we did was boring.
777/787/Scarebus may be way more comfortable, and automated... meh, y’all can have that. Boring to me. Almost like being an automaton.
Long Live the Old School Classics!
Now if we could just park the Scarebuses and bring back a bunch of parked Md80s..... ohhh be still my beating heart
10-08-2018, 05:52 PM
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Originally Posted by aa73
For me, the MD80 was hands down the most fun aircraft I’ve flown as an airline pilot. Way more fun than even the 75/76. It’s the old school cockpit plus the crazy amount of hands on pilot stuff that I really enjoyed.
10-08-2018, 06:53 PM
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I have to agree in part with aa73 - the Superduper80 was a great introduction to AA, and was a blast to fly. But after years of old 1950-60’s narrow body Boeing’s I needed something ergonomic, and that’s not the 737.
I bid the gentleman’s jet and settle into the career... hands down the bus is the most comfortable thing I’ve ever flown. Sure it feels like it’s going to come apart rolling down the runway, and sure no one really knows what fifi is doing - but like a buddy once said: “you’ll love it once you realize it’s not an airplane!”
Now the 767 - that’s like an 80’s Cadillac. Best of both worlds - but I do miss the tray table.
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I bid the gentleman’s jet and settle into the career... hands down the bus is the most comfortable thing I’ve ever flown. Sure it feels like it’s going to come apart rolling down the runway, and sure no one really knows what fifi is doing - but like a buddy once said: “you’ll love it once you realize it’s not an airplane!”
Now the 767 - that’s like an 80’s Cadillac. Best of both worlds - but I do miss the tray table.
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10-08-2018, 07:06 PM
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yeah, for comfort you definitely can’t beat the WBs or Airbus.
That said... I don’t know how I survive the horrible 737 year after year, based on what everyone says about it here. Man, that sitting reserve in base and driving to work to go fly a 737 really sucks!
That said... I don’t know how I survive the horrible 737 year after year, based on what everyone says about it here. Man, that sitting reserve in base and driving to work to go fly a 737 really sucks!
10-08-2018, 07:23 PM
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I left SWA after 6 months to come to AA. A friend told me that "at AA, you can be the airline pilot you want to be". Seniority progression and choice of flying...I've never done heavy jet ultra-long haul flying but I want to have the option to try it. Seat lock of 24 months so if I don't like it....I bid back to the Bus.
Remember its all the same s#@t when you get right down to it. When I was at SWA I would find myself staring out the windows of the 73 at the "other airlines" and wondering what life might be like there flying that XXX airplane...I don't do that anymore. I'm where I'm supposed to be now.
Remember its all the same s#@t when you get right down to it. When I was at SWA I would find myself staring out the windows of the 73 at the "other airlines" and wondering what life might be like there flying that XXX airplane...I don't do that anymore. I'm where I'm supposed to be now.
10-08-2018, 08:38 PM
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Originally Posted by e6bpilot
Mostly agree with all your salient points. Both are great places to be for different reasons. They are two very different companies.
As for long haul flying, BTDT, have the t-shirt, glad I am not doing it any more, but wish I had the opportunity to do it later.
As for long haul flying, BTDT, have the t-shirt, glad I am not doing it any more, but wish I had the opportunity to do it later.
10-08-2018, 09:00 PM
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Originally Posted by aa73
737 the “worst airplane at AA???” Really Slice... All a strict matter of opinion. To me It is an AWESOME bird...
For me, the MD80 was hands down the most fun aircraft I’ve flown as an airline pilot. Way more fun than even the 75/76. It’s the old school cockpit plus the crazy amount of hands on pilot stuff that I really enjoyed. Setting off car alarms every takeoff was an added plus!
The 737 is right up there with the old school stuff. Not as much fun as the 80 but not far behind. I get a kick out of the fact that I’m still connecting generators the way my fellow pilots did back in the 60s. Awesome stuff!
The 75/76 was pretty fun but the type of flying we did was boring.
777/787/Scarebus may be way more comfortable, and automated... meh, y’all can have that. Boring to me. Almost like being an automaton.
Long Live the Old School Classics!
Now if we could just park the Scarebuses and bring back a bunch of parked Md80s..... ohhh be still my beating heart
For me, the MD80 was hands down the most fun aircraft I’ve flown as an airline pilot. Way more fun than even the 75/76. It’s the old school cockpit plus the crazy amount of hands on pilot stuff that I really enjoyed. Setting off car alarms every takeoff was an added plus!
The 737 is right up there with the old school stuff. Not as much fun as the 80 but not far behind. I get a kick out of the fact that I’m still connecting generators the way my fellow pilots did back in the 60s. Awesome stuff!
The 75/76 was pretty fun but the type of flying we did was boring.
777/787/Scarebus may be way more comfortable, and automated... meh, y’all can have that. Boring to me. Almost like being an automaton.
Long Live the Old School Classics!
Now if we could just park the Scarebuses and bring back a bunch of parked Md80s..... ohhh be still my beating heart
10-09-2018, 04:33 AM
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“737 the “worst airplane at AA???” Really Slice... All a strict matter of opinion. To me It is an AWESOME bird... ”
Of course it’s an opinion. Guys have to have flown both to have an honest, and educated, opinion which is better. I’ve yet to hear anyone who’s flown both say they prefer the 737. Of course they exist but right now it’s a couple of dozen saying “Airbus” to no one saying “737.” It came up recently. FB has flown both. I asked which they preferred? “Airbus.” FO was surprised “really?!” FB - “I will NEVER fly the 737 again.”
Of course it’s an opinion. Guys have to have flown both to have an honest, and educated, opinion which is better. I’ve yet to hear anyone who’s flown both say they prefer the 737. Of course they exist but right now it’s a couple of dozen saying “Airbus” to no one saying “737.” It came up recently. FB has flown both. I asked which they preferred? “Airbus.” FO was surprised “really?!” FB - “I will NEVER fly the 737 again.”
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