deus ex machina

The APA is more often than not in negotiations so the dues is more often than not 1.5%... ALPA is 1.95% You get what you pay for.

The APA does not have a Major Contingency Fund. They do not have the political and economic resources to strike. That is why they got their clocked cleaned with Clinton and the PEB. Lot's of mis information out there.. with people thinking otherwise..

The APA does not have the Econ and Financial Analysis muscle to negotiate an industry leading contract...

There was a time, in the name of unionism, that ALPA provided E&FA to the APA for free... the APA loved that sweet milk for free..

ALPA then created a services company and started billing APA...

Last year the APA agreed to take steps to see if a ALPA/APA merger was viable. The APA failed to do what it said it would do... So ALPA did what it said it would do.. cancel the contract services agreement.

This was after the BOS/NYC reps slammed ALPA publicly and all of that drama.

Now the APA doesn't have the best resources to get the best contract.

Thus, the APA is once again setting itself up for a less than industry standard contract for which United and Delta will not only not be able to 'jack up the house' but will have to negotiate against. At a min, if the APA is going to use DAL/UAL contracts as negotiation leverage then they are obligated to provide a contract that DAL/UAL can use to 'jack up the house'

If you notice... the APA is always a day late and a dollar short. After ALPA does something, they follow up, acting like it was their idea. The APA press releases are all bark and no bite...

A recent example was the APA's manufactured Capt Pizza Delivery dude media sensation that went viral.. GMAFB...

If you look at the APA's FB page, during the Deny NAI protest in Washington DC.. the APA actually took ALPA's signage and turned up the ALPA logo.. (may 13, 2016) which is a classic representation of what the APA does.. ALPA organizes, pays for and executes, then the APA shows up and tries to make it look like their own...

What is sad is... if the APA joined ALPA they would be a formidable force within ALPA... to the point they could control ALPA quickly... that is the internal political side...

On the outside though is an inferiority complex that the APA pilots think they are contractually equal to Delta and United... when in reality they make less on many levels...

So obviously pride is more important that pay, work rules, benefits and retirement....

Thedude

Most of the L-AA is all bark and no bite.
Do you think there is a reason they had to take the MMPI and poop on and stick.
They were looking for guys that talk tough and fold when push comes to shove.
Very few of these d'bags have or are willing to put it all on the line when it hits the fan
In case you are wondering.....F APA and especially DC.

BOGSAT

ALPA merger.

I think APA and it’s problems might just be unfixable at this point.

deus ex machina

They were unfixable decades ago... I forgot the sick out debacle....

Whiskey4

If ALPA wants to get AA then they had better act quickly. An entire generation of regional pilots who spent years getting bent over either by ALPA or by their management (while ALPA National stood by or even supported it) are becoming AA pilots. My guess is that many will hope to sew seeds of change within APA rather than give ALPA another nickel.

deus ex machina

When they realize they are making less than United and Delta, they will either swallow their pride or inflate it...

The bottom line is... do you want to make more money or be APA...

Whiskey4

So, we will obtain an industry leading contract because... ...ALPA. Amazing that it’s so easy! Boy, we sure have been doing it wrong.

Install ALPA = More money

That’s awesome! Where do we sign up?

I’ll support ALPA when they start helping pilots get paid more than the secretaries in the Herndon front office. There should be a class action DFR suit about how ALPA National represents their regional members. What labor organization supports whipsawing MECs against each other?

at6d

Lots of us went elsewhere, too.

deus ex machina

If the APA was so awsuuum then why has not Envoy switched representation...

Go ahead and make up lame excuses why you make less money..

The bottom line... you get paid less for doing the same job... plus your JV agreements are bad... that is why JAL and BA do most of the global lift for oneword... but you knew that...

mainlineAF

I hate pilots. Constant dong measuring.