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rcflying53 03-06-2020 09:11 AM

I don’t think AA can afford to stop hiring. We are still behind in staffing, and retirements won’t be stopping. The more off the top, means less likely of a furlough due to cost savings. Wasn’t the company break even point 2 years on a furloughed pilot? Someone much smarter than me had a graph of that but I can’t find it.

daOldMan 03-06-2020 09:18 AM


Originally Posted by rcflying53 (Post 2990691)
I don’t think AA can afford to stop hiring. We are still behind in staffing, and retirements won’t be stopping. The more off the top, means less likely of a furlough due to cost savings. Wasn’t the company break even point 2 years on a furloughed pilot? Someone much smarter than me had a graph of that but I can’t find it.

The government is working on a "bail out" program for the airlines, which already includes the option to defer tax payments until a later time to help offset any current losses.

Super EZ E 03-06-2020 09:26 AM


Originally Posted by BOGSAT (Post 2987325)
We have to keep hiring to keep up with retirements.

If the Airline was to stay at the same size you'd be 100% correct. We have an underlining problem. What is the current demand? SWA says this is a 9/11 event to their bookings. This is bad news. When DAL says they will park the MD fleet then clearly DAL is seeing the same issues SWA sees. If Airline management think they have to "right size" then all bets are off!

DWC CAP10 USAF 03-06-2020 12:15 PM


Originally Posted by SparrowBird (Post 2988635)
out of the majors they are probably least likely to stop as there are more retirements in 2020 than both dal and ual combined. They might reduce but not stop.

Not quite....assuming the APC numbers are correct:

APC 2020 retirement numbers:

AAL: 772

DAL 549 + UAL 366 = 915

Dunkin 03-06-2020 01:25 PM


Originally Posted by DWC CAP10 USAF (Post 2990807)
Not quite....assuming the APC numbers are correct:

APC 2020 retirement numbers:

AAL: 772

DAL 549 + UAL 366 = 915

Those are mandatory retirement numbers only, plenty more are bailing out early and using months of sick time in the process.

Al Czervik 03-06-2020 01:51 PM


Originally Posted by rcflying53 (Post 2990691)
I don’t think AA can afford to stop hiring.

Zero plans to slow or stop hiring according to the boss of hiring.

that’s today’s plan anyway.

DWC CAP10 USAF 03-06-2020 02:58 PM


Originally Posted by Dunkin (Post 2990851)
Those are mandatory retirement numbers only, plenty more are bailing out early and using months of sick time in the process.

But the early outs are happening at all the airlines, so I assume it’s a push.

daOldMan 03-06-2020 03:21 PM


Originally Posted by DWC CAP10 USAF (Post 2990916)
But the early outs are happening at all the airlines, so I assume it’s a push.

American has WAY more pilots over the age 60. There are significantly more "early outs" between 60-64, so there are likely far more at AA. Look at the AA mandatory retirements for the next 5 years.

Al Czervik 03-06-2020 03:42 PM


Originally Posted by daOldMan (Post 2990939)
American has WAY more pilots over the age 60. There are significantly more "early outs" between 60-64, so there are likely far more at AA. Look at the AA mandatory retirements for the next 5 years.

Screen name checks out for this kind of knowledge.


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