Thedude

What package was offered to the F/As?

DoggiePoo

You amuse me. Your assumptions show just how correct I am about your lack of knowledge in airline history and bankruptcy. The cyclical nature of the business. How easily affected your job is during an economic downturn. Your math assumes I am, and, always have been a pilot. Bob Crandall used to say "Pilots always think they are the smartest people in the room, and they will tell you so" This is why so many of you end up in bankruptcy and divorce. When an old timer is giving you advice, you get on these boards and tell each other how smart you are and how you know how to fix everything. You never learn. Your company is going to use you all as pawns against each other. They did it when you had a "B" scale and you sold out your own. They did it again when they took the USAir pilots and pit you against each other. If you do not look at the downsizing of UAL & DL and assume you are going to be hit just as hard, if not harder given AA financial position you are absolutely unrealistic. If you don't think you and your regionals are going to be pit against each other, no advice can help you. As a suggestion for those that survive this. I suggest you live modestly on about 100 grand a year or less. Make sure if you get married you always have a spouse that has a career of her own so that person can support the family when you 1) go on strike 2) take a pay cut 3) lose that job. Don't ever ever marry a person that works for the same company. If you actually believe that your flying skills are transferable to the outside job market (which is now decimated) at 350K$+ a year, again you need a dose of reality and it is surely coming.


"If the pilots were in charge, Columbus would still be in port. They believe the assertion the world is flat." Bob Crandall

at6d

Corporate pilot for Chinese Communist Party? Is that THE job?

Flying101

Simple question.. Why are you on a pilot forum, ESPECIALLY if you’re not a pilot? I’m pretty sure most of us know exactly how the airline industry works. If you’ve been in this industry for 10-15 years you’ve seen the cycle..you’ve experienced the lows and highs. Perhaps you should take your “wisdom” to a regional forum... most of those pilots have not seen the downside. Give it a break man, you’re 60+ years old and wasting your time on a forum rather then with your family.

Downtime

Oh don’t worry he does give them the same advice to regional pilots especially AA w/o pilots. He holds a special grudge for AA which tells me he most likely missed his shot at being a pilot and AA had something to do with it. I doubt he does anything in the financial world as he would know not all debt is created equally. He would also. It cling to the corporate balance sheet is the same as personal balance sheet. I also say this because we are gonna be equally smaller to delta and united it is just half of the pilots leaving game off the top instead all of the bottom. He is also a tool bag ranting on the one of the regional forums about kicking all foreign born pilots out their seats while an American is the on street. With no exceptions for people married to Americans who have lived here for decades. In short I get the sense everyone turned him down and now he wants to see us suffer.

sailingfun

The Delta displacement has been posted. There is a net loss of 2000 positions. No idea where you get 7000.

Flying101

As per their SVP... 7000 overstaffed for fall of 2020.. 2500-3500 come Q3 2021

Al Czervik

Aren’t you a regional pilot?

Downtime

He can’t be a regional pilot he has THE job that everyone wants. I have been a regional pilot and I sure as ******* don’t want to be again.

FetaCheese

Wow..imagine a grown man (probably wearing jean shorts and white new balance sneakers) furiously typing away on his phone, trying desperately to start arguments on the internet with anonymous people.

Sad.