Furlough Estimates
06-29-2020 | 08:37 AM
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My personal number is at least 20% off the bottom.
If a company is going to furlough, it usually the first 10% go rather quickly and then the next 10% would go almost a year later.
Unless things are really, really bad then it would be 50%. (We aren't there)
I still think the numbers that Dougie floated are posturing and managing expectations.
If a company is going to furlough, it usually the first 10% go rather quickly and then the next 10% would go almost a year later.
Unless things are really, really bad then it would be 50%. (We aren't there)
I still think the numbers that Dougie floated are posturing and managing expectations.
06-29-2020 | 12:39 PM
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06-29-2020 | 02:05 PM
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06-29-2020 | 02:17 PM
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These days? It would probably be accompanied by cheering crowds just BECAUSE of the name. After all, that Amerigo Vespucci guy helped Spain enslave a continent.
06-29-2020 | 02:30 PM
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06-30-2020 | 07:42 PM
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Maybe not the best thread to post this but close enough for what is current. Here's what I wish I could of asked Vasu because something doesn't add up. We are hoping to reduce cash burn anyway we can. This even to the point of pulling parking permits from airports we don't normally use which is great. So here it goes:
For July wide body 777/787 flying CLT=0, MIA=0, DFW=12-14 average lines/day, LAX=5-6 average lines/day, ORD=1 line/day, PHL=0, and LGA=0. Total 21 lines per day systemwide. Meanwhile as of August 31st captains alone (on 3xp so add double these amounts for total pilots) CLT=49, MIA=149, DFW=380, LAX=117, ORD=81, PHL=111, and LGA=138. That should add up to 1025 captains and maybe 2000 FO/FB/FC for approximately 3000 total wide body crewmembers.
There appears to be a huge disparity between supply and demand. Even if all the excess were on leave making 55 hours per month that's a big cost to carry over until next summer. Am I missing something? Now there is a small bit of domestic mix in the line count above but probably no more than 10-15%. Most think international flying will be the last to return. Conservatively speaking you could at least reduce international wide body staffing by one half and yet no displacements. I dont get it. What strategy do you think AA is formulating if any. Im curious to what others are thinking.
For July wide body 777/787 flying CLT=0, MIA=0, DFW=12-14 average lines/day, LAX=5-6 average lines/day, ORD=1 line/day, PHL=0, and LGA=0. Total 21 lines per day systemwide. Meanwhile as of August 31st captains alone (on 3xp so add double these amounts for total pilots) CLT=49, MIA=149, DFW=380, LAX=117, ORD=81, PHL=111, and LGA=138. That should add up to 1025 captains and maybe 2000 FO/FB/FC for approximately 3000 total wide body crewmembers.
There appears to be a huge disparity between supply and demand. Even if all the excess were on leave making 55 hours per month that's a big cost to carry over until next summer. Am I missing something? Now there is a small bit of domestic mix in the line count above but probably no more than 10-15%. Most think international flying will be the last to return. Conservatively speaking you could at least reduce international wide body staffing by one half and yet no displacements. I dont get it. What strategy do you think AA is formulating if any. Im curious to what others are thinking.
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