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nuball5 07-14-2020 04:05 PM


Originally Posted by texaspilot76 (Post 3091914)
Just one thing this forecast doesn’t reflect: if we get a vaccine this year, all these issues will go away and things return to normal.

Oh, and if President Trump gets re-elected as well.

Nice little bump after-hours the AAL stock just got over the Moderna news.

Brillo 07-14-2020 04:40 PM

I am hopeful for a vaccine, but I wouldn’t count on it flipping things overnight, especially when latest polls show that around 50% of the f-tards in this country say they don’t plan on getting a covid vaccine once available.

When it does become available, Donald Trump, Barrack Obama, Tom Hanks, Oprah, Sean Hannity, Elizabeth Warren, Kim Kardashian, the Queer Eye guys, Chuck Norris, Joel Osteen, the US women’s national soccer team, and whoever the hell else need to all go on live TV, roll their damn sleeves up and get jabbed.

Downtime 07-14-2020 04:41 PM


Originally Posted by texaspilot76 (Post 3091914)
Just one thing this forecast doesn’t reflect: if we get a vaccine this year, all these issues will go away and things return to normal.

Oh, and if President Trump gets re-elected as well.


So if you are hoping vaccine approval prior to furlough I got bad news. Moderna doesn’t even start phase 3 until July 27th. It is two shots given once fa month. So September before we can even start collecting data. Now one of the antibody cocktails striking gold could happen and hope it happens.

texaspilot76 07-14-2020 04:54 PM


Originally Posted by Downtime (Post 3091961)
So if you are hoping vaccine approval prior to furlough I got bad news. Moderna doesn’t even start phase 3 until July 27th. It is two shots given once fa month. So September before we can even start collecting data. Now one of the antibody cocktails striking gold could happen and hope it happens.

supposedly Russia just finished a trial that was successful.

Happyflyer 07-14-2020 04:54 PM


Originally Posted by GPullR (Post 3090700)
Latest 2nd quarter earnings forecast....

AMR - Loss of $3.897B

DAL - Loss of $2.704B

UAL - Loss of $2.693B

SWA - Loss of $1.615B

ALK - Loss of $461M

JBLU - Loss of $507M

SAVE - Loss of $247M

Sent from my SM-G975U using Tapatalk

Delta announced today they lost 3.9B in Q2. Also wrote down an additional 2.1B loss of equity in partners. Numbers include all unpaid leave.

Thedude86 07-14-2020 05:29 PM


Originally Posted by Brillo (Post 3091959)
I am hopeful for a vaccine, but I wouldn’t count on it flipping things overnight, especially when latest polls show that around 50% of the f-tards in this country say they don’t plan on getting a covid vaccine once available.

When it does become available, Donald Trump, Barrack Obama, Tom Hanks, Oprah, Sean Hannity, Elizabeth Warren, Kim Kardashian, the Queer Eye guys, Chuck Norris, Joel Osteen, the US women’s national soccer team, and whoever the hell else need to all go on live TV, roll their damn sleeves up and get jabbed.

I‘m not an anti-vaxxer but why does it matter who gets it as long as you get one? I just don’t see the need when there’s a 99.87% chance I’ll be completely fine anyway. And that’s if I actually get it in the first place. Half the population doesn’t get a flu vaccine and no one has ever seemed to care.

FetaCheese 07-14-2020 05:32 PM


Originally Posted by Downtime (Post 3091961)
So if you are hoping vaccine approval prior to furlough I got bad news. Moderna doesn’t even start phase 3 until July 27th. It is two shots given once fa month. So September before we can even start collecting data. Now one of the antibody cocktails striking gold could happen and hope it happens.

All the vaccines that are in the human trials say they will be available by early 2021. A couple specifically said January.

Bobine 07-14-2020 06:30 PM


Originally Posted by 727C47 (Post 3086762)
you are our least favorite airline to fly because of the lack of social distancing ( ie full middle seats ) on your flights, only Delta and SWA are doing it right, we are pushing our travel department to give preference to them, I hope you don’t furlough anyone, and come out of this intact ( I have many friends who work at AA) , but in the meantime I have no desire to fly on you while your present practices continue. Cheers.

The middle seat free is a PR stunt. Do you really thing the person sitting in the seat in front or back of you or even the person right across the aisle is 6 ft away? That's kind of like southwest claiming they are the low fare airline. It"s all about PR.

R57 relay 07-14-2020 07:29 PM


Originally Posted by griff312 (Post 3062158)
Somebody just posted a great take on AA furloughs, and why we likely WON'T furlough, on the Below The Line Facebook page. If you're the facespace, I highly suggest you go read it.

BTL...use with caution.

Downtime 07-14-2020 08:53 PM


Originally Posted by Thedude86 (Post 3091987)
I‘m not an anti-vaxxer but why does it matter who gets it as long as you get one? I just don’t see the need when there’s a 99.87% chance I’ll be completely fine anyway. And that’s if I actually get it in the first place. Half the population doesn’t get a flu vaccine and no one has ever seemed to care.


More vectors for a mutation rendering the vaccine moot. Or since this will be an ongoing thing like the flu and since everyone is different you don’t know when the your protection will run out.


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