nobody is arguing that. We’re arguing that the number is easily below 100,000 extra instead of 136,000 extra. It’s the flu. I’m glad you care about my grandma now. I just wish you would care about her during flu season too.

Again, it is actually not the flu. If we can’t agree on that simple fact then we’re never going to get anywhere.

But in reality you haven’t really argued anything. He’s saying there are more overall deaths. If you want to make a real argument, explain that fact to us. Give us the reasoning.

So, uh, furloughs...

Sorry, I “printed” it to bring the graphs across, as I couldn’t find a way to just paste it and bring the graphics along.

As a researcher, 75 days old is quite recent for me, especially when the data contained within it is still valid.

I dont think the furloughs have anything to do with the Jetblue deal. 2500 is before we've really had an serious talks about Leaves and other mitigation beyond Oct 1.

Unbelievable that this is still a debate. I hope you all enjoy this banter while standing in the unemployment line. You realize this could have been over by now if we had acted like adults and NOT debated the hell out of it from day one. Example being just about every other country on the planet who has moved on from COVID.

Meanwhile, we need to be seriously talking about what we need to do to avoid Furloughs. CARES act part 2 will certainly help. But that's outside our control. What can we control? Whatever negotiations are happening with management. There's tons we can do, so long as we keep an open mind.

48 pages of Rona arguments back and forth, on a thread titled "Furlough Estimates". Only 16 replies, out of over 400 actually deal with furlough estimates. Try to stay on topic, kids...!

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Indeed

The CDC just said last Friday that their "best estimate" moving forward is a .0065 infection mortality ratio. For those keeping score at home that is less than 1%.

Ok, but as a researcher, you should also realize doctors had ABSOLUTELY NO CLUE how to treat COVID at the time the data for that article was collected which is why I mentioned the date. We have advanced pretty far from that time to now with the death rate STEEPLY declining(CDC data). It also, unfortunately, killed many thousands of extremely vulnerable patients in that first few weeks of outbreak further exacerbating death counts.