Originally Posted by ACEssXfer (Post 3093862)

Ok, but as a researcher, you should also realize doctors had ABSOLUTELY NO CLUE how to treat COVID at the time the data for that article was collected which is why I mentioned the date. We have advanced pretty far from that time to now with the death rate STEEPLY declining(CDC data). It also, unfortunately, killed many thousands of extremely vulnerable patients in that first few weeks of outbreak further exacerbating death counts.

Originally Posted by sanicom3205 (Post 3093779)

It, quite literally, is not the flu my friend.

“I mean, people always say, well, the flu does this, the flu does that,” Fauci said. “The flu has a mortality of 0.1 percent. This has a mortality rate of 10 times that. That’s the reason I want to emphasize we have to stay ahead of the game in preventing this."


“This is an Airbus” I mutter to myself, as I climb into the cockpit of a 737 and hope for the best

Originally Posted by sanicom3205 (Post 3093782)

*sigh*

Literally, here’s the rest of that paragraph you cherry picked:

”“So we are at IDPH trying to remove those obvious cases where the COVID diagnosis was not the reason for the death. If there was a gunshot wound, if there was a motor vehicle accident, we know that that was not related to the COVID positive status.

“We are trying to make sure that things that aren’t related at all to the COVID diagnosis are removed, but if someone has another illness, like heart disease, and then had a stroke or other event, it’s not as easy to separate that and say COVID didn’t exacerbate that existing illness. That would not be removed from the count,” she added.


See how the narrative changes when you include the whole story?? I bet you chirp at the media for that, don’t ya?


https://www.google.com/amp/s/newscha...cause-of-death

Took me three seconds to find this. It was the third article that came up in the search engine when I searched “IDPH adjusted Covid deaths”. If you want to verify and then go after states for not doing the right thing, I’m all for it. More accurate data is better for all of us. But what you’re doing now is far from that.

Originally Posted by Thedude86 (Post 3093922)

It quite literally is the flu. Here is Dr. Fauci saying so with his colleagues. He compares it to severe seasonal flus. Private Dr. Fauci and public Dr. Fauci are two very different people. he goes on TV the very next day after he put this report out and contradicts himself.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/justthe...ic-virus%3famp. It’s in the New England journal if you want the full report. There’s also a video of him ripping off his mask when he “thought” the cameras were off. I’m sure he really thinks it’s a deadly virus.

Here is also the CDC putting out a chart over a month ago BEFORE cases went up and deaths are down comparing it to the flu numerically. https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019...scenarios.html. Symptomatic and Asymptomatic together are 0.26% death rate. If you’re not in a nursing home that comes to 0.13%. And again, this was over a month ago. If the CDC updated that today it would be way less.

Originally Posted by iHateAMR (Post 3093877)

Nowhere did I say anything about treating. I literally said more deaths have occurred, gave you evidence, and asked for people telling us these people would have died anyway to explain the uptick in deaths this year. I can see I’m arguing with somebody with reading comprehension problems or has an aversion to reading, I hope it all works out for you.

For the rest, here’s is another article, with 2 day old data.
The Economist Article

Originally Posted by Thedude86 (Post 3093922)

It quite literally is the flu. Here is Dr. Fauci saying so with his colleagues. He compares it to severe seasonal flus. Private Dr. Fauci and public Dr. Fauci are two very different people. he goes on TV the very next day after he put this report out and contradicts himself.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/justthe...ic-virus%3famp. It’s in the New England journal if you want the full report. There’s also a video of him ripping off his mask when he “thought” the cameras were off. I’m sure he really thinks it’s a deadly virus.

Here is also the CDC putting out a chart over a month ago BEFORE cases went up and deaths are down comparing it to the flu numerically. https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019...scenarios.html. Symptomatic and Asymptomatic together are 0.26% death rate. If you’re not in a nursing home that comes to 0.13%. And again, this was over a month ago. If the CDC updated that today it would be way less.

Originally Posted by formerdal (Post 3094000)

They have been saying this for quite some time re: mortality rate. Its not going lower that is based on the whole enchilada. It is however, much more contagious and if it goes to 60-70% of the population, stay with me here...200 Million X 0.026 = 520,000 deaths! and thats ok? You cant take out the nursing home numbers out. They built this country and you just write them off. Would you feel differently if the most at risk age group were yours?! I'll bet you would be singing a different tune. Another genius who doesn't understand the definition of literally...

Originally Posted by sanicom3205 (Post 3093936)

Mother of god, you really are that dumb. They are different viruses. They are not the same thing.

You know how people throw a piece of garbage in the can and yell "Kobe!" ? They are not actually Kobe.
Sometimes people get in my mangenta Miata and compliment it. I say "yes, the Miata is like a Mercedes". My mangenta Miata is not a Mercedes.

Understand? Do we need to define the word literally?


Anyway, hopefully now that we have a negotiation committee we can work towards mitigating furloughs like our brothers and sisters at DAL are.

Originally Posted by formerdal (Post 3094000)

They have been saying this for quite some time re: mortality rate. Its not going lower that is based on the whole enchilada. It is however, much more contagious and if it goes to 60-70% of the population, stay with me here...200 Million X 0.026 = 520,000 deaths! and thats ok? You cant take out the nursing home numbers out. They built this country and you just write them off. Would you feel differently if the most at risk age group were yours?! I'll bet you would be singing a different tune. Another genius who doesn't understand the definition of literally...