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Al Czervik 07-16-2020 04:03 PM


Originally Posted by Downtime (Post 3093301)
So flu season starts in September and ends in April. In a bad year kills 60k people. This started in earnest in late Feb early March. We have doubled our flu deaths and it is still going. The flu vaccine prevents severe disease and keeps our flu deaths down.

When You get hit by a car with the flu they don’t call it a flu death.

AZFlyer 07-16-2020 04:27 PM


Originally Posted by Al Czervik (Post 3093316)
When You get hit by a car with the flu they don’t call it a flu death.

I've never seen a car with the flu. :D

Al Czervik 07-16-2020 04:33 PM


Originally Posted by AZFlyer (Post 3093332)
I've never seen a car with the flu. :D


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Downtime 07-16-2020 04:47 PM


Originally Posted by Al Czervik (Post 3093316)
When You get hit by a car with the flu they don’t call it a flu death.


Nor do they call that a COVID death. You and I are usually on the same page but I have not seen any credible evidence that they are calling car accidents Covid deaths.

Atl320 07-16-2020 05:10 PM

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=qwkDJ7PSLvQ

Dobbs18 07-16-2020 07:38 PM


Originally Posted by Downtime (Post 3093347)
Nor do they call that a COVID death. You and I are usually on the same page but I have not seen any credible evidence that they are calling car accidents Covid deaths.

I think he was trying to make a point, not sure he took the time to Google car accidents credited to Covid deaths...if you are in fact on the same page as Al you should understand his point. This has all gone on way to far, its not the death sentence everyone made it out to be in Feb/March. It's just not and the data supports it. I am not a Trump guy at all but its hard not to see the politics getting in the way of rational decision making, with Trump trying to downplay it to his base and the other side just hell bent on burying the guy. Just common sense leadership was needed and we didn't get any of it from anyone. I blame the media mostly, they crush this country and divide us every month.

Thedude86 07-16-2020 07:50 PM


Originally Posted by Downtime (Post 3093347)
Nor do they call that a COVID death. You and I are usually on the same page but I have not seen any credible evidence that they are calling car accidents Covid deaths.

Several people have posted information on this but you must be ignoring the science and the experts. In Illinois the health department literally said you can be murdered or die in a car accident and if you test positive you’ll still be counted as a covid death. Literally. https://www.google.com/amp/s/newscha...cause-of-death


Other states count it in a similar way. Colorado is one of the few that actually went back and corrected the numbers and magically the covid deaths dropped by 25%. https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.col...amp/5198485002.

Dr. Birx has said something similar on a national level and that is why she also said she can’t trust the CDC numbers and that they’re inflated by at least 25%. This isn’t an Alex Jones conspiracy. The people in charge of tracking this stuff are the same exact people admitting to our faces this is how they’re counting covid deaths. Yet you still wanna base your fear on “projections from 4 months ago that were over 90% wrong. The flu has been over 80k deaths in some years. Dr. Fauci actually admits in the New England Journal that Covid is similar to severe flu seasons. https://www.google.com/amp/s/justthe...ic-virus%3famp.

Keep living in denial. This isn’t 3rd or 4th hand theories. The sources are the very “experts” themselves. If we counted flu like we do covid, covid would look like rainbows and gumdrops in comparison to the flu. According to the CDC’s own website the flu infects on average over 130,000 per day. Why are you just now wearing your mask?

Arado 234 07-16-2020 09:49 PM


Originally Posted by AZFlyer (Post 3093332)
I've never seen a car with the flu. :D

But there are lemons....

Downtime 07-17-2020 05:30 AM


Originally Posted by Thedude86 (Post 3093480)
Several people have posted information on this but you must be ignoring the science and the experts. In Illinois the health department literally said you can be murdered or die in a car accident and if you test positive you’ll still be counted as a covid death. Literally. https://www.google.com/amp/s/newscha...cause-of-death


Other states count it in a similar way. Colorado is one of the few that actually went back and corrected the numbers and magically the covid deaths dropped by 25%. https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.col...amp/5198485002.

Dr. Birx has said something similar on a national level and that is why she also said she can’t trust the CDC numbers and that they’re inflated by at least 25%. This isn’t an Alex Jones conspiracy. The people in charge of tracking this stuff are the same exact people admitting to our faces this is how they’re counting covid deaths. Yet you still wanna base your fear on “projections from 4 months ago that were over 90% wrong. The flu has been over 80k deaths in some years. Dr. Fauci actually admits in the New England Journal that Covid is similar to severe flu seasons. https://www.google.com/amp/s/justthe...ic-virus%3famp.

Keep living in denial. This isn’t 3rd or 4th hand theories. The sources are the very “experts” themselves. If we counted flu like we do covid, covid would look like rainbows and gumdrops in comparison to the flu. According to the CDC’s own website the flu infects on average over 130,000 per day. Why are you just now wearing your mask?

So two things from what I have read we are most likely missing one in 5 to one in ten infections so anywhere from 350-500k cases a day right now. This virus puts about 18-20 percent of all lab confirmed patients in the hospital. Look I just want to keep my job but it is obvious that we have to get containment on this thing for that to happen. Schools where I live are already the re closing for the fall. I guess my point is we can either do the hard work and get containment or we can continue to debate everything and let this virus keep running at full speed and watching our bookings keep dropping. So if wearing a mask or a clown suit for that matter will get this thing in check then I am in. Also one thing to some of the numbers remember this virus causes blood clotting and neurological symptoms independent of respiratory severity. So what may look like at right heart attack death or stroke may have been caused by COVID.

sanicom3205 07-17-2020 05:49 AM


Originally Posted by Atl320 (Post 3093355)


Originally Posted by Thedude86 (Post 3093480)
Several people have posted information on this but you must be ignoring the science and the experts. In Illinois the health department literally said you can be murdered or die in a car accident and if you test positive you’ll still be counted as a covid death. Literally.

She literally has said the exact opposite of that.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nbc...2270810/%3famp


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