Well except the positives were still positives oh and ten percent is line for adequate and inadequate testing. Considering it wasn’t all the facilities most likely still means Covid is expanding rapidly. So we can all sit here and debate the finer points of stats or we could you know wear a mask and act like adults and maybe put this thing behind us.

I will pray for you, may you be forgiven.

According to the CDC it JUST BARELY meets the threshold for an epidemic....

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019...iew/index.html

(See graph at bottom)

In another CDC document their "most likely scenario" moving forward is .0065 infection mortality rates.

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019...s.html#table-1

We should certainly be wearing a mask, washing hands, etc, etc but lets stop the outright lunacy that this thing is going to kill everyone. I, and millions of other are going to lose thier jobs, houses, wives, mental health you name it due to this thing being overhyped by exponential factors.

I completely agree. Wash your hands, wear a mask, and everyone get on with their lives. No reason for you to hibernate in a cave for something less dangerous than driving your car.

yup just read this straight from the CDC website yesterday too. Also remember that every time someone takes a test and its positive it goes towards the total new case count even when its the same person. So think about that for a second because when someone test positive they are likely going to get multiple test ever few days and have multiple positives, so that doesn't help the panic factor at all. Just to be clear I believe its real, we should wear masks because its highly contagious, but at a IFR of 0.0065 can we just move on with most of our normal lives already?! The data is what it is now with 3.5m cases or whatever it is we know what this thing does...I mean how big a sample size do they need?

That could still mean over 2 million deaths in the U.S.

No one is saying all the deaths are made up. Our argument is that they are way overblown. Even if you believe the current 135k deaths, the experts who predicted 2 million are over 90% wrong. But the likelihood of 135k being anywhere in the same ballpark of reality is as likely as TSA passenger numbers to be back to normal next week.

I love when people make the argument of trust the scientists and the experts. If I wanna know the chemical makeup of Covid... I’ll consult a scientist. If I wanna know whether I need to lock myself indoors for the next year all I have to do is 4th grade math. In many cases the math is already done for us. You just have to be willing to look instead of thinking the media is giving us 100% of the information. Lets look at the experts, doctors, and public officials who we’re supposed to be listening to. Here’s an expert from the Illinois department of health LITERALLY saying if you die in a car accident or are MURDERED and you test positive for covid you’ll still be counted as a covid death. https://newschannel20.com/news/local...cause-of-death I think somebody actually posted a clip of the conference earlier.

Here’s a national expert Dr. Birx saying something similar on a national level. Although, not as literal.
https://youtu.be/AoiQ9bpJsGA

Because of this, the expert Dr. Birx also says she cant trust the CDC numbers and that their numbers are inflated by at least 25%. Using the chart that you posted alludes to this. I even rounded up a few weeks, and I came up to an excess of 53,000 deaths between week 12 and 17. Week 17 was about 5,000 excess deaths. Being that the death rate has continued to decline significantly the last 2 months I think its pretty safe to say that if we use 5,000 for every week since week 17 to now.... we’ll have easily overestimated it. So we currently have completed week 28. 11 more weeks x 5,000 = 55,000. And again... this is a major overestimate being that some weeks are reported around 2,000 (which includes the inflated numbers) So in total we have 53k plus 55k which equals 108k. And that’s even with the numbers fudged in your favor. I’d be willing to bet the real number is below 100k. Compared to the 135k theyre currently reporting.

Early on the projections were 2 million. So according to the people that say trust the science... we should trust their models from 4 months ago that were over 90% wrong and completely ignore that actual data and numbers we’re currently collecting.

Also, the CDC admits themselves that they’re including positive antibody tests into the “new” case numbers. So anyone who’s had it in the last 3 months are being included as well. Trust the experts!!! They always do the right thing. 2 + 2 = 13 because science!!

you are assuming every single person in the US gets infected, highly unlikely but nice try...just another example of using numbers to scare people.

I didn’t assume that. The experts are the ones who came up with that number in the beginning. It was the number being thrown out as a reason for the shutdown. As you can see, they were just a wee bit off. Oh, but it’s because the shutdown kept the numbers down? Well, we’ve been opening up for almost 3 months. Plenty of time for deaths to dramatically increase. Yet, they’re still going down. At the current rate the “experts” will hit their mark in 21 years.

Edit: sarcasm detector might be MELd.