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Dobbs18 07-25-2020 02:15 PM

Just a little suggestion to every APA pilot on here...please consider adding a paycheck donation to the APA Emergency Relief and Scholarship Fund. It can very easily be set up as a payroll deduction by just using the link in one of the latest APA emails. Hopefully they money can help some of our brothers and sisters through this soon to be very hard time. I never post stuff like this but it seems like a good way to prove that we all care about each other by more than just words. Thanks....for what its worth I am not in the 2500 and this is not me personally soliciting help for myself...

FlyyGuyy 07-25-2020 03:35 PM


Originally Posted by Downtime (Post 3098956)
Yeah this. I don’t have any kids and the wife makes good money. That said I have plenty of friends Here that are new moms and dads and they are the only income earner. I don’t want to see the stress this will cause their families.

I'm one of those people, I'm doing everything in my power to come up with a new plan to avoid selling my home. My wife if looking at going back to work. I'm sleeping 2-4 hours a night.

I have never been this stressed in my life. Barely made enough money for a reasonable amount of time to have a savings let alone a large savings. Thanks for the empathy. It does make it better to know people are worried about us.

FetaCheese 07-25-2020 03:48 PM


Originally Posted by FlyyGuyy (Post 3099160)
I'm one of those people, I'm doing everything in my power to come up with a new plan to avoid selling my home. My wife if looking at going back to work. I'm sleeping 2-4 hours a night.

I have never been this stressed in my life. Barely made enough money for a reasonable amount of time to have a savings let alone a large savings. Thanks for the empathy. It does make it better to know people are worried about us.

I'm in the same situation, man. I've already come to the conclusion that if it comes to furlough, we'll have to sell our house. Even with my wife going back to work, together we won't make even half of my current salary. Not even close to what I made at the Regionals even.

Yeah..I've been getting no sleep for a while either. If you need to talk, shoot me a PM. I'll give you my number. We'll make it through this

Al Czervik 07-25-2020 03:50 PM

I’m worried about you guys. Please Call wingman if you’re having a tough time. This too shall pass.

Philbert81 07-25-2020 07:52 PM

Yup!
 

Originally Posted by FetaCheese (Post 3099164)
I'm in the same situation, man. I've already come to the conclusion that if it comes to furlough, we'll have to sell our house. Even with my wife going back to work, together we won't make even half of my current salary. Not even close to what I made at the Regionals even.

Yeah..I've been getting no sleep for a while either. If you need to talk, shoot me a PM. I'll give you my number. We'll make it through this

We have 4 kids 6 and under, and one income. My wife and I are terrified. I too don’t sleep much lately, I’m constantly thinking about what I can do when it finally happens.

El Peso 07-25-2020 08:51 PM


Originally Posted by Philbert81 (Post 3099233)
We have 4 kids 6 and under, and one income. My wife and I are terrified. I too don’t sleep much lately, I’m constantly thinking about what I can do when it finally happens.

I assume you have begun to explore corporate/charter jobs near you just in case? How is that market these days? Asking for a friend....

black cat 07-25-2020 09:02 PM


Originally Posted by El Peso (Post 3099240)
I assume you have begun to explore corporate/charter jobs near you just in case? How is that market these days? Asking for a friend....

Corporate, charter, cargo...nobody right now is touching 121/furloughed guys. They know that once recalled that those guys will be gone. Which makes this whole deal even more desperate. Any pilot that gets thrown to the street isn’t going to be able to find any kind of flying gig short of a CFI job.

JetMonkey 07-25-2020 09:45 PM

A lot of us have been where you guys are right now and understand how you're feeling. April's fool day 2009 was my date... gone for a year and a half. Not terribly long compared to others here. And this was after being on reserve for 5 years so I never was making great money, and had a five and a two year old at the time. Luckily my wife worked and we had a little saved to help me take over a broken down pet grooming business since there was absolutely NO flying jobs to be found. Let me tell ya... going from flying multi-million dollar planes down to washing dog's asses is quite a humbling experience. The point to all this is... somehow you'll find a way to get though it. This will pass and things will improve.

boeingdvr 07-26-2020 04:29 AM


Originally Posted by JetMonkey (Post 3099251)
A lot of us have been where you guys are right now and understand how you're feeling. April's fool day 2009 was my date... gone for a year and a half. Not terribly long compared to others here. And this was after being on reserve for 5 years so I never was making great money, and had a five and a two year old at the time. Luckily my wife worked and we had a little saved to help me take over a broken down pet grooming business since there was absolutely NO flying jobs to be found. Let me tell ya... going from flying multi-million dollar planes down to washing dog's asses is quite a humbling experience. The point to all this is... somehow you'll find a way to get though it. This will pass and things will improve.

I have a lot of buddies at DAL/AA. Living high on the hog for the last few years. Sad to see the down turn- hope they can all hold on.

EagleVol 07-26-2020 06:15 AM


Originally Posted by FetaCheese (Post 3099164)
I'm in the same situation, man. I've already come to the conclusion that if it comes to furlough, we'll have to sell our house. Even with my wife going back to work, together we won't make even half of my current salary. Not even close to what I made at the Regionals even.

Yeah..I've been getting no sleep for a while either. If you need to talk, shoot me a PM. I'll give you my number. We'll make it through this


I’m in the same boat with you. Been in aviation 13 years and made decent money maybe 2 of it. Just starting to get out of the financial hole the first 11 put me in. Took a pay cut this year to come here and if the furlough actually happens, it will cause me to have to use the little savings and retirement I do have. If it last longer than a year I’ll be completely broke.


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