Furlough Estimates
#31
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Just the numbers for those outside the arena looking in. AA manpower planning numbers are for 12,086 positions for Sept 2020. November 2020 shows 10,060 positions, 2,452 of those being international wide body (777/787). July 2021 10,997 positions. As for the actual headcount as of august 2020 we have 12,674 pilots. 1,150 of those are on removed fleets (190,767, 330). Permanent leave and retirements to this date have been removed from this figure and I believe Temporary leaves have not. Also, from today until the end of the year there are 323 retirements. 2021 shows 542 total, 2022 is 624 and 2023 is 828. I separated the wide body flying out for the Nov 2020 figure and its stays fairly constant for the forecast periods that followed. Seems optimistic to me but I'll let others decide that. Hope the numbers shed a little light on what may or may not happen.
#32
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Just the numbers for those outside the arena looking in. AA manpower planning numbers are for 12,086 positions for Sept 2020. November 2020 shows 10,060 positions, 2,452 of those being international wide body (777/787). July 2021 10,997 positions. As for the actual headcount as of august 2020 we have 12,674 pilots. 1,150 of those are on removed fleets (190,767, 330). Permanent leave and retirements to this date have been removed from this figure and I believe Temporary leaves have not. Also, from today until the end of the year there are 323 retirements. 2021 shows 542 total, 2022 is 624 and 2023 is 828. I separated the wide body flying out for the Nov 2020 figure and its stays fairly constant for the forecast periods that followed. Seems optimistic to me but I'll let others decide that. Hope the numbers shed a little light on what may or may not happen.
Last edited by Flying101; 05-24-2020 at 09:04 AM.
#33
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if you go 3xp select all in each category it will tell you where you are on active pilots. Also the union put out an updated the 3xp this week. Check your email.
#34
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Right, it shows 14,328 total not 12,674 as mentioned. Where are the other ~1,700? AApilots 3XP shows 14,328 while APA 3XP is showing 12,511. Confusing is all.
Last edited by Flying101; 05-24-2020 at 11:07 AM.
#37
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34 USLOA
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If demand improves to 50% by October, AA will only required half their(13,000) active pilots.
Demand keeps improving...
https://www.tsa.gov/coronavirus/passenger-throughput
But that’s not the big problem...
The BIG problem is Parker will “Never let a good crisis go to waste?”
Bankruptcy and/or Furloughs is only a short-term hardship...that will lead to long-term gains.
September will have the rest of this story...
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#39
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Joined APC: May 2020
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528 are Retired, Resigned or Deceased...
48 MGT
9 PLOA
34 USLOA
629 MDSB
181 CRMLOA
If demand improves to 50% by October, AA will only required half their(13,000) active pilots.
Demand keeps improving...
https://www.tsa.gov/coronavirus/passenger-throughput
But that’s not the big problem...
The BIG problem is Parker will “Never let a good crisis go to waste?”
Bankruptcy and/or Furloughs is only a short-term hardship...that will lead to long-term gains.
September will have the rest of this story...
48 MGT
9 PLOA
34 USLOA
629 MDSB
181 CRMLOA
If demand improves to 50% by October, AA will only required half their(13,000) active pilots.
Demand keeps improving...
https://www.tsa.gov/coronavirus/passenger-throughput
But that’s not the big problem...
The BIG problem is Parker will “Never let a good crisis go to waste?”
Bankruptcy and/or Furloughs is only a short-term hardship...that will lead to long-term gains.
September will have the rest of this story...
#40
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Joined APC: May 2015
Position: Bus drivins’ harder on ur head than on ur feet
Posts: 94
528 are Retired, Resigned or Deceased...
48 MGT
9 PLOA
34 USLOA
629 MDSB
181 CRMLOA
If demand improves to 50% by October, AA will only required half their(13,000) active pilots.
Demand keeps improving...
https://www.tsa.gov/coronavirus/passenger-throughput
But that’s not the big problem...
The BIG problem is Parker will “Never let a good crisis go to waste?”
Bankruptcy and/or Furloughs is only a short-term hardship...that will lead to long-term gains.
September will have the rest of this story...
48 MGT
9 PLOA
34 USLOA
629 MDSB
181 CRMLOA
If demand improves to 50% by October, AA will only required half their(13,000) active pilots.
Demand keeps improving...
https://www.tsa.gov/coronavirus/passenger-throughput
But that’s not the big problem...
The BIG problem is Parker will “Never let a good crisis go to waste?”
Bankruptcy and/or Furloughs is only a short-term hardship...that will lead to long-term gains.
September will have the rest of this story...
nootpilot’s first nearly cohesive post in years!!
Way to go buddy!
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