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Old 09-11-2020 | 04:59 PM
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Originally Posted by JoeyPants
Have you watched any Glenn Loury, or John McWhorter or Coleman Hughes?
I am not done attaching information. There is definitely an opposing view out there and it is important it be heard too.
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Old 09-11-2020 | 04:59 PM
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Originally Posted by sanicom3205
Each state has it's own rules which expressly prohibit it too, so not sure of your point. You took the flag and made it political, and you guys are the only group I've seen despicable enough to do it. just pointing out how funny that is from the "don't break the law" crew.
Where's your source for each state?
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Old 09-11-2020 | 05:05 PM
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Originally Posted by 55555
Isn’t the only other piece of flair permitted on uniform a pink breast cancer awareness ribbon? So, you’re tellin me AAL thinks BLM’s marxist agenda ranks up there with the fight to end CANCER??! Absurd. Unless you take it as BLM=cancer. Then I can get on board with that.
So if the racist hate group blm's pins are acceptable are other similar groups pins such as a Confederate Flag or NAZI flag acceptable too? I assume an American Flag or Thin Blue Line flag are good too?
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Old 09-11-2020 | 05:07 PM
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Originally Posted by sanicom3205
Each state has it's own rules which expressly prohibit it too, so not sure of your point. You took the flag and made it political, and you guys are the only group I've seen despicable enough to do it. just pointing out how funny that is from the "don't break the law" crew.
Kind of like these guys?

https://www.foxnews.com/sports/chief...stice-messages
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Old 09-11-2020 | 05:12 PM
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Originally Posted by JoeyPants
Have you watched any Glenn Loury, or John McWhorter or Coleman Hughes?
Ask and you shall receive. The racism displayed here is beyond belief. To suggest that we all need to take responsibility for our own success. Just wow.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rzOApVTfT48
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Old 09-11-2020 | 05:25 PM
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Originally Posted by TransWorld
Brandom Tatum has good insight a lot of people do not have.
Brandon Tatum is good as is Jericho Green and Anthony Brian Logan.
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Old 09-11-2020 | 07:46 PM
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The longer we make race an issue, the longer it will be an issue. That's as poetic I can make it.
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Old 09-12-2020 | 05:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Seneca Pilot
Ask and you shall receive. The racism displayed here is beyond belief. To suggest that we all need to take responsibility for our own success. Just wow.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rzOApVTfT48
Here is a really good one if you'll allow for a white dude (and liberal) to discuss all of this nonsense. Sam Harris takes a pretty deep dive.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vmgxtcbc4iU&t=3254s
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Old 09-12-2020 | 07:10 AM
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Originally Posted by JoeyPants
Here is a really good one if you'll allow for a white dude (and liberal) to discuss all of this nonsense. Sam Harris takes a pretty deep dive.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vmgxtcbc4iU&t=3254s
There are plenty of white commentators who make the same points. I am specifically choosing these commentators who, despite great personal risk, are taking this stance in the face of enormous pressure from their own cultural leaders. These men and women are called Uncle Toms and worse, have their lives threatened, and their professional standing threatened just for pointing out that blacks are free, freedom is hard, and we succeed or fail due to our own choices.

These men and women courageously make the point that systematic racism has been stamped out. They make the case that the leadership on the left have more to gain by exacerbating the problem than ever putting forth any actual solutions. They make the case that the collapse of the family is driving much of the economic inequality facing blacks and whites (there are more whites in poverty than blacks). They use irrefutable facts to make their points and have the credibility of doctorate degrees and quality research.

I have made the point for years that the problem with policing in the US is not racism. There is no evidence to support racism in police departments. Most of the cities with the most black shooting occur in area dominated by blacks. Baltimore, for example, had a black mayor, black AG, black police chief, and a majority of black officers when Freddie Grey died in the police van. The narrative, however, was that he was killed due to racism of the police department. The problem with policing in the US has been the increasing militarism of police departments. Police should not be wearing tactical gear, and do not need armored vehicles. This militarization feeds an us against them mentality and attracts wannabe commandos to the force.

I am a minority, 25% Cherokee. My ancestors can accurately make the claim that we had equal treatment during early American history to blacks. We not only lost our land and culture, we were also enslaved, then killed off, then marched as much as 1500 miles to land that was chosen for us because it lacked any redeeming qualities. Are we bitter? Sure some of us. Just like blacks we have militant factions who sit on reservations to this day telling anyone who will listen that we are kept down. We also have "leaders" who profit from our situation while secretly pushing to make sure it doesn't change. The rest of us got out, got educated, and made something of ourselves.

I am done with this debate. I have linked evidence from scholars to point to the problems. Open minded people will look at that evidence and dig deeper and learn. After that digging you will make up your own mind. Many won't do the work of understanding the problem and its solutions. Sadly it is just easier to stay mad.
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Old 09-12-2020 | 07:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Seneca Pilot
There are plenty of white commentators who make the same points. I am specifically choosing these commentators who, despite great personal risk, are taking this stance in the face of enormous pressure from their own cultural leaders. These men and women are called Uncle Toms and worse, have their lives threatened, and their professional standing threatened just for pointing out that blacks are free, freedom is hard, and we succeed or fail due to our own choices.

These men and women courageously make the point that systematic racism has been stamped out. They make the case that the leadership on the left have more to gain by exacerbating the problem than ever putting forth any actual solutions. They make the case that the collapse of the family is driving much of the economic inequality facing blacks and whites (there are more whites in poverty than blacks). They use irrefutable facts to make their points and have the credibility of doctorate degrees and quality research.

I have made the point for years that the problem with policing in the US is not racism. There is no evidence to support racism in police departments. Most of the cities with the most black shooting occur in area dominated by blacks. Baltimore, for example, had a black mayor, black AG, black police chief, and a majority of black officers when Freddie Grey died in the police van. The narrative, however, was that he was killed due to racism of the police department. The problem with policing in the US has been the increasing militarism of police departments. Police should not be wearing tactical gear, and do not need armored vehicles. This militarization feeds an us against them mentality and attracts wannabe commandos to the force.

I am a minority, 25% Cherokee. My ancestors can accurately make the claim that we had equal treatment during early American history to blacks. We not only lost our land and culture, we were also enslaved, then killed off, then marched as much as 1500 miles to land that was chosen for us because it lacked any redeeming qualities. Are we bitter? Sure some of us. Just like blacks we have militant factions who sit on reservations to this day telling anyone who will listen that we are kept down. We also have "leaders" who profit from our situation while secretly pushing to make sure it doesn't change. The rest of us got out, got educated, and made something of ourselves.

I am done with this debate. I have linked evidence from scholars to point to the problems. Open minded people will look at that evidence and dig deeper and learn. After that digging you will make up your own mind. Many won't do the work of understanding the problem and its solutions. Sadly it is just easier to stay mad.

Just a little more because I know the rebuttals from the BLM supporters here will be that I am racist for saying such things.

I am Cherokee, My grandmother happened to marry white and I identify as white because my mother married white and I am only 25%. My grandmother's sister married black. I have black great uncles, and a bunch of black cousins. My grandfather, uncle, and two cousins are police officers. I am slightly acquainted with race relations and police and their struggles.
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