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atooraya 11-02-2020 11:14 AM


Originally Posted by FlyyGuyy (Post 3152438)
​​​​​​ This is my feeling as well. Before I was furloughed the majority of people I flew with had the "I was furloughed, so get over it attitude". They were adamantly against any kind of relief to save jobs. Including the .5%. Totally absurd, folks making hundreds of thousands dollars aren't willing to give up .5%.

This pilot group is really 3 or 4 groups. LAA. LUS/AWA and anybody new. Least important by far is "new".

Sounds like socialism to me.

Gone Flying 11-02-2020 11:42 AM


Originally Posted by atooraya (Post 3154112)
Sounds like socialism to me.

sounded like unionism to over 90% of the pilots at United and Delta

ElCaribe 11-02-2020 11:53 AM

Does APA have LECs for each domicile to represent each seniority block?

atooraya 11-02-2020 12:15 PM


Originally Posted by Gone Flying (Post 3154123)
sounded like unionism to over 90% of the pilots at United and Delta

Is unionism like Marxism?

Gone Flying 11-02-2020 12:41 PM


Originally Posted by atooraya (Post 3154150)
Is unionism like Marxism?

wouldn't Marxism being the state owned the airlines, pays all pilots, rampers, gate agents and Executives the same amount, and seniority would not be used for bidding?

or we could go the other way and institute things like each individual bargaining for themselves, good schedules awarded to those who are in cahoots with management. And pilots who get too expensive are the ones who get furloughed when times are tough.

it’s a safety net for those who got kicked to the curb, stop acting like it’s the end of the world

rickair7777 11-02-2020 01:14 PM


Originally Posted by atooraya (Post 3154112)
Sounds like socialism to me.


Originally Posted by Gone Flying (Post 3154123)
sounded like unionism to over 90% of the pilots at United and Delta

Unionism if you volunteer to do it (union membership and associated employment is voluntary).

Socialism if the government makes you do it.

Merle Haggard 11-02-2020 03:41 PM


Originally Posted by Gone Flying (Post 3154123)
sounded like unionism to over 90% of the pilots at United and Delta

You mean slightly over 50%

Gone Flying 11-02-2020 03:49 PM


Originally Posted by Merle Haggard (Post 3154285)
You mean slightly over 50%

more than 90% of the pilots at each of those 2 airlines voted in favor of a 1% assessment to fund healthcare for furloughs.

Atooraya seems to think it is socialism/Marxism to asses .5% of AA pilots pay to fund healthcare for their furloughs.

atooraya 11-02-2020 07:44 PM


Originally Posted by rickair7777 (Post 3154197)
Unionism if you volunteer to do it (union membership and associated employment is voluntary).

Socialism if the government makes you do it.

So it sounds like Communism? What is it when the have nots beg off the teet of the haves?


All I’m saying is get another job furloughed pilots. Our economy provides a ton of new jobs for you. I worked hard for my seniority here at American and I don’t need communist ideals like ALPA to siphon off my hard earned money to pay for others. That is literally socialism.


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