No union can be effective without a committed group of leaders in their Negotiating Committee/LEC/MEC's, and a pilot group that is willing to follow their lead. Bad leadership is disastrous no matter who's Acronym is hanging on the door. Having all of the major airline pilots under one union umbrella does add to the potential for sharing and cooperation to the real threats to the profession coming in the name of cabotage, JV's and increased automation.

But only if there is one seniority list. And no one will “follow” they’re lead now.

Here's a novel suggestion. Dump APA and let that be the end of it. Save your dues percentage and put it in your own pocket. Seriously, what has the union really done that's so great here in the past 10 years? This idea really should have some traction and it's unbelievable to me that no one has suggested it in the past.

You mean just accept the individual 5yr contracts the company presents you.....like JB used to do before they joined ALPA? If you just dump the union, who negotiates, enforces the contract? Who prevents the company from just outsourcing what they want without any impediment?

So you’re saying have no union? There’s a lot of good reasons why it has no traction.

Where to even start with this post. I'm assuming it's just troll bait. On the off chance you truly believe what you posted take a look at what is happening globally with airline pilots who don't have union representation.

What you're missing here is that Thkooj is incredibly unintelligent. It's almost sad, like we should be nice to him as a charity (almost).

Seriously, look at his post history.

He lives in his own fantasy land.
Ask him about his “military” background.

I've been ALPA and Teamsters. Teamsters? Interesting proposition? I guess it depends on what kind of Interesting you're looking for Lol. Nothing at Teamsters is worth giving up ALPA national resources for, imo. From friends at Atlas there might be a push for them going back to alpa sooner than later.

After the APA’s treatment of ALPA members, there is no good reason it should.

Sorry you are having issues with APA.

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