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FXLAX 11-10-2020 05:18 PM


Originally Posted by 757HI (Post 3157047)
Not trying to engage in any debate or arguments.

I truly believe AA pilots will be better served with ALPA.

The numbers of AA pilots will guarantee leadership positions within the national ranks. The money APA brings to the table is significant (in dues dollars).


The numbers and money brought to a merger would give APA significant leverage in negotiating terms with ALPA.

The bigger union would give pilots more clout in DC, especially considering a unified PAC. Also, we would all benefit from those within the AA ranks that bring their expertise in the whole spectrum of pilot issues. I believe it would truly strengthen us as a whole.

BOGSAT 11-10-2020 09:54 PM

Does ALPA offer more transparency? APA seems to do a lot “of work” behind closed doors.

Arado 234 11-11-2020 12:18 AM


Originally Posted by BOGSAT (Post 3157240)
Does ALPA offer more transparency? APA seems to do a lot “of work” behind closed doors.

Are they made out of glass?

206321 11-11-2020 03:01 PM

It will happen eventually.

There is no good reason why it shouldn't.

Andrew_VT 11-11-2020 03:40 PM


Originally Posted by 206321 (Post 3157489)
It will happen eventually.

There is no good reason why it shouldn't.

It'll take another merger to happen though. It won't happen on its own unfortunately.

Scrapdaddy 11-11-2020 04:36 PM

APA, Alpa, teamsters or the VHPA. Pick your poison.

GhettoJet 11-12-2020 07:13 AM


Originally Posted by FXLAX (Post 3157114)
The numbers and money brought to a merger would give APA significant leverage in negotiating terms with ALPA.

The bigger union would give pilots more clout in DC, especially considering a unified PAC. Also, we would all benefit from those within the AA ranks that bring their expertise in the whole spectrum of pilot issues. I believe it would truly strengthen us as a whole.

Those of you who think ALPA will be your savior better do a little bit more reading. Now the teamsters...that would be an interesting proposition.

BOGSAT 11-12-2020 12:43 PM


Originally Posted by GhettoJet (Post 3157755)
Those of you who think ALPA will be your savior better do a little bit more reading. Now the teamsters...that would be an interesting proposition.

Teamsters? Ask our Atlas brothers and sisters about their contract success? When it was amendable, etc. Or any Teamster carrier for that fact.

If were adding up wins and losses, ALPA carriers have everyone beat.

Maybe any day now APA will get it’s act together right? When is the last time we led?

ny797 11-12-2020 12:54 PM

Despite their shortcomings in the regional world, it’s hard to argue against the success of ALPA. Compare a Delta or United contract to an APA negotiated contract. Better yet, compare it to a foreign flagged airlines “contract.”

FXLAX 11-12-2020 05:21 PM


Originally Posted by GhettoJet (Post 3157755)
Those of you who think ALPA will be your savior better do a little bit more reading. Now the teamsters...that would be an interesting proposition.


I don’t think anyone has said ALPA or any other union would be a savior. The pilots would still have to put the work in.


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