I edited my post. Please don’t try to censor my speech because I’m a flow through and I’m on the list, tyvm.

Oh so you hate your fellow pilots, cool

"Find another job". Yeah no problem. There's 100k jobs all over the place.. I'm willing to accept less, but so far, nationwide 2 job offers. Both are ****. I'm willing to move. 2 degrees. I'm all about the American dream and picking myself up, right now, the job market sucks.

And ATC in the US would be....?

this guy is silencing dissenting opinions just like a leftist!

The civil service is very socialistic in outlook and inherent nature. I've said many times before that government employees should not be allowed unions, or at least not the kind with any self-help authority. Civil service is about *service*, not self-help... if the gov doesn't pay enough, market forces will fix that.

In private sector everybody is in it to make money, and unions came about as an obvious, necessary foil to the abuses of the lopsided power balance between workers and management. Unions are largely OBE in the modern white-collar world, since workers have access to information and mobility necessary to freely follow market forces. They are still relevant in professions (mostly blue, a few white collar) which are seniority based, since we have no mobility once locked into a seniority system.

It's Time... For ALPA.
 

Is your issue solely with ALPA or does your disdain for unions cross over to APA as well?


ALPA National does provide resources, institutional knowledge, and tools to the MEC, LEC, and individual members. I’ve personally been represented by a ALPA national attorney on a personal grievance that the MEC attorney couldn’t have because lack of knowledge in that specific issue.. And now I’m currently availing myself to ALPA Aeromedical. Again, this all at the individual level.

So yes, absolutely yes, ALPA National does do much at the individual airline and member level. If you ever become an ALPA status representative, they send you to rep school. There you learn of all the vast things ALPA does behind the scenes. I wish they would show that part of the presentation to all new ALPA members so they wouldn’t have the same misconception that many like you have, (at no fault of your own).

The ALPA umbrella provides a lot of services to individual pilots, maybe better than what APA provides? I don't know.

In context of this discussion, ALPA national isn't going to come in and "fix" your MEC or straighten out your relationship with management, or negotiate a better covid deal for you. I can only think of one time in recent decades where national intervened in MEC contract negotiations by declining to approve a contract at a bottom-feeder regional.

I like ALPA, no complaints at the major, but it might not fix what ails you right now. I'm not saying it's not a good long-term move, but only APA pilots can make that call. If AA gets into an M&A at a disadvantage with the M&A partner then it would probably be best to be ALPA since all the likely partners are ALPA, and they do have some rules for SLI.