The context I thought this was about is a merger of APA and ALPA. Obviously if that were to happen, it doesn’t change the makeup of the pilots who work for AA. So with that established, what would the merger do for AA pilots? That’s what I was getting at in response to your comment about what has ALPA done for individual MECs. My answer is true and it’s true whether it’s a major airline or a regional airline. My two examples I gave were when I was at a regional airline!

As for merger possibilities, I think you put too much emphasis on APA being better off being ALPA in a merger with another ALPA airline. In that scenario, it’s the only time that ALPA National doesn’t get involved. So you wouldn’t get the benefit of the resources and knowledge from ALPA in that instance. The merger would done in accordance with federal law which basically says to negotiate, mediate, and arbitrate to come to a fair and equitable solution. They wouldn’t be tied to the three specific items required to be used in an ALPA merger although they would probably be used anyway.

Not only is ALPA's structure better, with ALPA there is better transparency on how our dues money is spent. Right now, the "Section 6" 1/2% dues assessment is being spent on items other than a new collective bargaining agreement. The C/B's are very clear and written in plane language; The .5% S6 assessment is for spending on a new CBA. Not LOA's or any other items. Just a new CBA.

APA is also hoarding cash via the S6 .5% in case of a bankruptcy filing by the company. Rumor has it that the last bk cost the APA over $30 million so they are hoarding cash.

Any use of the S6 .5% dues assessment is a violation of the APA's Constitution and Bylaws.

There is no way they could get away with this malfeasance under ALPA.

Furthermore, the APA spends an unholy amount of money on legal. It retains many layers and law firms all across the country and costs us millions of dollars. Under ALPA, our legal bills would be substantially lower.

Does that matter to line pilots? Maybe not. Dues are dues, and ALPA is 2%.

However, with the large pilot group of AA, and a merger bringing in assets of over $20 million in cash, and $30 million in investments the pilots of AA would have great influence within ALPA. There is the possibility of lowering dues if that is the most important issue for switching unions.

1.85% now. Slowly but surely coming down.

Wow.

Thank you.

AA pilots are now paying more in dues than ALPA. APA dues are currently 1% base, .5% assessment for a new CBA (laughable in this environment but they are still collecting it) and .5% for furloughed pilots medical coverage.

both UA and DL voted a 1% assessment for this on top of their 1.85% dues FYI

How many are furloughed at DL and UA?

Touché

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Not trying to engage in any debate or arguments.

I truly believe AA pilots will be better served with ALPA.

The numbers of AA pilots will guarantee leadership positions within the national ranks. The money APA brings to the table is significant (in dues dollars).

I’d love to have AA back in ALPA, I think they’d be welcome with open arms and be a tremendous asset nationally. All are welcome.

UA ALPA suspended the 1% furlough fund assessment effective 11/1 due to no furloughs through May 2021 with the passing of the LOA.