Is that 10% or 50%?

If this is the case, and you've got a hard core group who will simply say no no matter what, then you need to play the leverage game, because nothing will happen if you don't.

What will happen is you'll start a drive, and as soon as the greybeards see that it's getting momentum and might go someplace, they'll start to say soothing things and pretend to go along. As soon as the opportunity permits, and it looks like the peasants are putting away their pitchforks, they'll engineer some way to back out of it.

If you're serious, you need to collect the cards and press to test until the signatures are on the line that is dotted. Otherwise nothing at all will change.

176. Some are on leave associated with COVID. On the list I have a lot are marked inactive but pilots on special assignment are also marked inactive on the list I have so it doesn't really mean they're not-active.

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What happened here to cause this ? What was the outcome for the pilots?

Discussion starts at post 6604:
https://www.airlinepilotforums.com/e...ation-331.html

That initial post was last Thursday. Probably way to early for anything to have happened to the pilots.

Why would anything happen to the pilots?

Dude, its Envoy. Why do you think?

Who have they fired for a mistake like this, unless it involved holy sh*t-level stupidity?

short memory? ORD crew that dialed in the wrong heading on departure.

You know perfectly well it wasn't just the wrong heading that got them fired. The CA got his job back very soon after.