View Poll Results: Will AA declare bankruptcy?
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219
70.65%
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29.35%
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Bankruptcy
#1071
On Reserve
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Don't let the negativity on these forums get to your head. Take the first legacy class and don't commute.
That turns out to be the real issue in question. The first legacy class is AA in the very near future which would require a commute for the rest of my career to a company highly in debt (the true numbers and ramifications being argued here notwithstanding). Or wait for my DL CJO with no class date and metering but no commute. Or stay at the biggest regional with a super seniority and some very likely pay and QOL improvements on the horizon.
That turns out to be the real issue in question. The first legacy class is AA in the very near future which would require a commute for the rest of my career to a company highly in debt (the true numbers and ramifications being argued here notwithstanding). Or wait for my DL CJO with no class date and metering but no commute. Or stay at the biggest regional with a super seniority and some very likely pay and QOL improvements on the horizon.
#1072
Ultimately you need to be going to Delta since there's no commute, but how long do you suppose the wait is? If you have a CJO I can't imagine it'll be that long....
#1073
Gets Weekends Off
Joined: Dec 2019
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This. Seniority is king and securing it asap is usually the way to go. One exception is this scenario. No amount of seniority can compensate for a life of commuting vs driving to work. I would roll the dice and wait for the Delta class date.
#1074
In a land of unicorns
Joined: Apr 2014
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From: Whale FO
Don't let the negativity on these forums get to your head. Take the first legacy class and don't commute.
That turns out to be the real issue in question. The first legacy class is AA in the very near future which would require a commute for the rest of my career to a company highly in debt (the true numbers and ramifications being argued here notwithstanding). Or wait for my DL CJO with no class date and metering but no commute. Or stay at the biggest regional with a super seniority and some very likely pay and QOL improvements on the horizon.
That turns out to be the real issue in question. The first legacy class is AA in the very near future which would require a commute for the rest of my career to a company highly in debt (the true numbers and ramifications being argued here notwithstanding). Or wait for my DL CJO with no class date and metering but no commute. Or stay at the biggest regional with a super seniority and some very likely pay and QOL improvements on the horizon.
#1075
Gets Weekends Off
Joined: Oct 2015
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From: Gear slinger
Don't let the negativity on these forums get to your head. Take the first legacy class and don't commute.
That turns out to be the real issue in question. The first legacy class is AA in the very near future which would require a commute for the rest of my career to a company highly in debt (the true numbers and ramifications being argued here notwithstanding). Or wait for my DL CJO with no class date and metering but no commute. Or stay at the biggest regional with a super seniority and some very likely pay and QOL improvements on the horizon.
That turns out to be the real issue in question. The first legacy class is AA in the very near future which would require a commute for the rest of my career to a company highly in debt (the true numbers and ramifications being argued here notwithstanding). Or wait for my DL CJO with no class date and metering but no commute. Or stay at the biggest regional with a super seniority and some very likely pay and QOL improvements on the horizon.
Any soon to regional improvements will be slow rolled as much as possible while age 67 is being lobbied and won’t need to be implemented once it’s passed.
#1076
Banned
Joined: Jul 2021
Posts: 136
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One might bet that they will do better sometime after the covid depression than after it, so yeah they are betting the airline may be more profitable later.
#1077
On Reserve
Joined: Oct 2015
Posts: 103
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I have a DL CJO and no class date yet. The concern with taking AA immediately then jumping to DL is that 1) It doesnt help my DL seniority I'll still get what I get 2) Although well prepared for first year pay, that could mean 1 1/2 to 2 years of first year pay which hurts leaving a very lucrative position that I have a the top of my regional. 3) I only have about ten years left.
#1079
I have a DL CJO and no class date yet. The concern with taking AA immediately then jumping to DL is that 1) It doesnt help my DL seniority I'll still get what I get 2) Although well prepared for first year pay, that could mean 1 1/2 to 2 years of first year pay which hurts leaving a very lucrative position that I have a the top of my regional. 3) I only have about ten years left.
https://www.cnn.com/2022/07/26/econo...hnk/index.html
it is possible you could end up furloughed for a few years at any major, even DAL. Not likely, maybe, but certainly possible. And even if that didn’t happen you’d be on reserve, your QOL and pay both taking a considerable hit. Going through it once - then starting over a second time would be rough, unless you could somehow get DAL to give you a quicker class date by leveraging an AA CJO.
If you had even 15 years left, taking the first legacy offer would be a no brainer, but potentially being furloughed for a year or two when you won’t have a lot of time to make it up changes the financial calculus considerably. But when economists who have devoted their careers to the field are split 50-50, about all your fellow pilots can give you is sympathy. It’s a damn tough call.
Good luck whatever you decide.
Last edited by Excargodog; 07-26-2022 at 12:25 PM.
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